Post game chat with Cleft Crusty (at Minnesota)

[superfan]

you have to realize that games like this in MN were par for the course for Favre when he was a Packer QB, except most of the time he didn't play as well as Rodgers. Favre and the Packers lost to MN at Minnesota in their superbowl winning 1996 year - and they had some O-line problems then too. Things look a lot different outside. In November and December.

Rare instance of sobriety induced clarity here, Cleft. Please try to stay on topic - in case you need reminding, that would be medication fueled rants against the posters.

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleft,

What is your take of Kampmann as an OLB and his transition to this point ?

I don't like it. Specifically, I don't like to see Kampman dropping back in coverage unless there is a zone blitz going on. Two reasons: you can't take away your best pass-rusher if you aren't then creating pressure somewhere else. The obvious case was the 2nd and 10 on the Vikings first drive of the second quarter. That play had all sorts of problems. Bottom line: Kampman can fit the scheme if the scheme plays to his strengths.

[Cleft Crusty]

you have to realize that games like this in MN were par for the course for Favre when he was a Packer QB, except most of the time he didn't play as well as Rodgers. Favre and the Packers lost to MN at Minnesota in their superbowl winning 1996 year - and they had some O-line problems then too. Things look a lot different outside. In November and December.

Rare instance of sobriety induced clarity here, Cleft. Please try to stay on topic - in case you need reminding, that would be medication fueled rants against the posters.

Clefty is dispassionate about the game, but not about know nothing, knee-jerk fans who call for firings and killings following a loss. If they venture in here Clefty will reduce them to internet ashes with scathing firebrand rhetoric.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Cleft,

Do you know if any of those guys in the wrangler jeans commercials are free agents. Some of them actually got a hand on Bert.

[Bossman641]

Cleft,

Do you know if any of those guys in the wrangler jeans commercials are free agents. Some of them actually got a hand on Bert.

Hahaha, well done

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleft,

Do you know if any of those guys in the wrangler jeans commercials are free agents. Some of them actually got a hand on Bert.

I believe Kampman was the only Packer to register a hit on Favre, and that was too late. The Packers put everything into stopping the run, and that part of their game was perfect. But they got scorched by Favre - both due to the respect for the run, coverage mistakes (at least three that I could detect), and pathetic, poorly schemed pass rushing. I should note that the 49ers tried blitzing Favre last week and got burned repeatedly before retreating into a zone. Problem is for the Packers that their d-backs are still struggling to hand off receivers in the zone with a new guy (Martin) back there. Give a savvy vet like Favre time to throw and like an experienced general surgeon removing my appendix (I had that done without anesthetic years ago before discovering morphine) - Favre could do it with his eyes closed.

[superfan]

Clefty is dispassionate about the game, but not about know nothing, knee-jerk fans who call for firings and killings following a loss. If they venture in here Clefty will reduce them to internet ashes with scathing firebrand rhetoric.

Glad to hear it.

So, what should be done first? Fire McCarthy, or cut Rodgers? Both are equally 100% responsible for tonight's loss.

[BZnDallas]

Cleft,

Do you know if any of those guys in the wrangler jeans commercials are free agents. Some of them actually got a hand on Bert.

I believe Kampman was the only Packer to register a hit on Favre, and that was too late. The Packers put everything into stopping the run, and that part of their game was perfect. But they got scorched by Favre - both due to the respect for the run, coverage mistakes (at least three that I could detect), and pathetic, poorly schemed pass rushing. I should note that the 49ers tried blitzing Favre last week and got burned repeatedly before retreating into a zone. Problem is for the Packers that their d-backs are still struggling to hand off receivers in the zone with a new guy (Martin) back there. Give a savvy vet like Favre time to throw and like an experienced general surgeon removing my appendix (I had that done without anesthetic years ago before discovering morphine) - Favre could do it with his eyes closed.

shit give any nfl caliber qb 7 seconds to throw and they'll make it look like a turkey on thanksgiving... except may jamarcuss russell...