I'm saying it...FIRE M3

[Packers4Glory]

oh and i can't believe none of the backs we cut aren't better than Wynn..i'm already sick of him dropping dump off passes. he sucks ass too. not that this is on topic much other than he keeps getting in the game due to BJ's injury. why he is on the roster is beyond me from what i've seen on the field.

yeah, not MM's call however.

I'm sure he has a say...esp on a back up running back. I'm not really laying the blame on his shoulders per say...just another thought I had about this team that is a minor issue all things considered.

[Sparkey]

oh and i can't believe none of the backs we cut aren't better than Wynn..i'm already sick of him dropping dump off passes. he sucks ass too. not that this is on topic much other than he keeps getting in the game due to BJ's injury. why he is on the roster is beyond me from what i've seen on the field.

yeah, not MM's call however.

I'm sure he has a say...esp on a back up running back. I'm not really laying the blame on his shoulders per say...just another thought I had about this team that is a minor issue all things considered.

HE is the #3 so he plays only because BJ is hurt.

[Packers4Glory]

geez I feel like I'm the only one sick to death of penalties. I don't remember so many in 07...but 08 was horrible and 09 is just as bad if not on pace to be WORSE.

accountability has to be had somewhere when penalties are this bad 2 straight seasons. this falls to the coach who holds the players to a higher cleaner standard of play.

[gbgary]

when asked about his passing success tonight brett said it was the scheme the Packers ran. the 5-10+ yard cushion and zone coverage without pressure was a joke.

[Rastak]

when asked about his passing success tonight brett said it was the scheme the Packers ran. the 5-10+ yard cushion and zone coverage without pressure was a joke.

Pack was stonewalled on pass rush but they play a fucking great run defense. I say that with due respect.

[Packers4Glory]

right now we are lucky to have wone 2 games. whoever won the opener was lucky to win. that happened to be the Packers. Neither team impressed or looked very good.

this team due to the line and penalties is just not a good team. everyone knows you will only go as far as your O and D lines will take you. if either is suspect you're looking at a mediocre season and watching in January.

I've pretty much had it w/ management from TT down to M3. I don't think either are terrible but Neither seem to have what it takes to get to the next level. in fact it seems like we are regressing or staying in that mediocre range. I say regressing because the O line is decidedly worse than last yr. by far.

Big Mike can't seem to fix the holes or stop the flags from flying.

This is still a very young team, and I'm fine w/ cleaning house after this season if things don't turn around. Its hard to blame coaching for having crappy options to pick from on the line, however the penalties can be laid in M3's lap.

[Packers4Glory]

when asked about his passing success tonight brett said it was the scheme the Packers ran. the 5-10+ yard cushion and zone coverage without pressure was a joke.

Pack was stonewalled on pass rush but they play a fucking great run defense. I say that with due respect.

seemed they were afraid to blitz and get caught allowing AP breaking a long one. however this let Brett sit back and read the daily news while he picked out an open receiver.

if Brett stays healthy and a team can't get a rush out their front 4, they are gonna torch a team.

[superfan]

Play calling was pretty solid overall. Was not thrilled with the play calling with 1st and goal through the end of that failed series.

Overall game plan of stopping Peterson was a good plan IMO, Favre just flat out beat us, played one of his great games. Lack of pressure on Favre was very disappointing.

Penalties were very disappointing, but what can be done about that? Do you think McCarthy coaches the team to play sloppy and put themselves in position to get called for penalties? Woodson's penalty on his INT was minor but legit, he put his hand on the receiver's back. Most of the other penalties were player errors and/or calls that could have gone either way. It happens. I saw a few additional plays that could have been called against the Pack, and a few that the Vikings committed that were not called.

I thought the team was reasonably well prepared and played OK, but the keys to defeat were injuries, bad mistakes by Rodgers, poor blocking by the OL, lack of pressure by the DL, and good plays by Favre and the Vikes. Give the other team some credit, they played pretty good tonight.

I think if we swap coaches (Chilly for MM) we lose by a larger margin. So no reason to pin this one on the HC.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This was one of the best called games i have seen from MM. He had a nice game plan today. That first challenge was dumb, otherwise he called a good game. Penalties HAVE to end.

ya, I agree. The PAckers were physically outmatched, yet a smart game plan, gutty play by Rodgers, kept them close until the end.

[crosbiegrad]

If we dont have a winning season you have to think that Teddy will be looking to replace MM. Is it for sure Cowher makes a come back next season? You'd have to think that Cowher and Capers together wouldnt be such a bad thing

[Tarlam!]

I can see how some would blame the penalties on M3, but I think the Zebras, for the 4th week in a row, have not been very good. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I think the Zebras don't like M3.

If anything, his rookie HC year has a lot to do with it. I vaguely recall how he made some public statements that weren't too flttering to Zebras and I think we are getting payback for it.

[mmmdk]

This was one of the best called games i have seen from MM. He had a nice game plan today. That first challenge was dumb, otherwise he called a good game. Penalties HAVE to end.

McCarthy had a fine plan...which did not fit the strength and especially our weaknesses. Adjustments? Not McCarthy.

McCarthy stop the penalties? Why now? 3 years + of loads of penalties; I don't see it happening.

Fix it? FIRE McCarthy and, yes, start over!!!!

[mmmdk]

I can see how some would blame the penalties on M3, but I think the Zebras, for the 4th week in a row, have not been very good. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I think the Zebras don't like M3.

If anything, his rookie HC year has a lot to do with it. I vaguely recall how he made some public statements that weren't too flttering to Zebras and I think we are getting payback for it.

I don't like M3 - keep it up Zebras.

Note: I don't think the Zebras are out to get McCarthy, Packers or anyone else really. Packers = badly coached team. Packers = has holes the size of something really big...especially on OL.

[Packers4Glory]

I can see how some would blame the penalties on M3, but I think the Zebras, for the 4th week in a row, have not been very good. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I think the Zebras don't like M3.

If anything, his rookie HC year has a lot to do with it. I vaguely recall how he made some public statements that weren't too flttering to Zebras and I think we are getting payback for it.

this team has had more laundry on a game by game basis than a stripper working on a saturday nite. Its been like that for 2-3 years.

[MichiganPackerFan]

They just don't seem to have that swagger and oomph when they hit. No gang tackles, no helping each other up and jumping around pumping eachother up, etc..

Did you not see Harvin get his shit rocked by 3 guys on a KR?

I did, but one physical play does not equate to an entire game. Don't you feel the same? They looked so jacked up for the Bears game and came out throwing punches. Tonight they looked passive.

I thought they played really aggressive against the run. And they got a lot of bodies in there quickly to hammer AP. I don't think energy and aggressiveness of the players was an issue. I think DC misjudged that Favre would be mistake prone and left more personel in the secondary to take advantage of that. He rarely sent a blitz and therefore #4 had all day to make those throws. Hell I could have done that. (In Madden. On Easy. On a good day. Maybe. )