Looking for positives

[Scott Campbell]

Charles Woodson, Favre is no idiot no matter what the Wisconsin media and Packer fans care to say, Favre went after Woodson once and got a PI penalty on a pass C. Wood picked off in the endzone. He is so damn good especially for his age. I have a hard time finding a better corner in the NFL.

Both of those penalties on Chuck were horse shit.

[Deputy Nutz]

I thought the Packers did ok on both sides of the ball in certain aspects of the game. Still way too many mistakes which I hold McCarthy responsible for. Sloppy play has been a mainstay in Green Bay since McCarthy has been the head coach. The whole blame can't fall directly on him though, Thompson keeps giving him the youngest team in the NFL, young players make mistakes it is unavoidable.

Allen Barbre played pretty darn well tonight, I didn't hear his name and if he did give up a sack it wasn't because he got his butt kicked off the snap.

This offense is dangerous if the ball comes out quickly, but Rodgers can not hold on to it he isn't Ben Roth. Rodgers is struggling in the pocket which is partly his fault but his offensive line is terrible.

Run defense was unbelievable. The Packer sold out to stop the run but at least they did that right, especially considering that Peterson didn't break a tackle and then go 50 yards because everyone was up on the line. The Packers run defense was aggressive, good solid tackling.

Charles Woodson, Favre is no idiot no matter what the Wisconsin media and Packer fans care to say, Favre went after Woodson once and got a PI penalty on a pass C. Wood picked off in the endzone. He is so damn good especially for his age. I have a hard time finding a better corner in the NFL.

Mason Crosby has one hell of an onside kick.

Agree with all of this (CWood is our best player), but not sold on Barbre yet. You are probably wise to set the bar at "didn't hear his name" though. What I would like to see is some toughness in the running game. I thought the Barbre/Sitton right side was supposed to lead to a physical counter to the Williams wall. Pack ran OK, but not enough to scare defenses in the coming weeks.

It helps if Ryan Grant has more than 11 carries. The Packers were having some early success against a fired up Vikings defense, especially with the running game. McCarthy had to shut that down for what ever reason. McCarthy's qb got sacked 8 times for god's sake you would think to take that kind of heat off the pass blocking you would put the ball in the hands of your running game, wear down the front line of the Vikings even if your only gaining 2 or 3 yards a carry.

[ThunderDan]

I think the real positvie we can take out of the game is that there were two or three occasions where it looked like a blowout was just about to happen and the Packers scrapped back into the game.

If we don't turn the ball over twice deep in Minnesota territory and drop a TD pass who knows how the game turns out. It kind of reminded me of last years game were somehow we had a shot to win at the end with the 52 yard FG attempt.

Hopefully, we can get the O-line worked on during the bye week. I still hope we can trade Kampman to a 4-3 team and pick up a LT or a RT.

[Deputy Nutz]

Charles Woodson, Favre is no idiot no matter what the Wisconsin media and Packer fans care to say, Favre went after Woodson once and got a PI penalty on a pass C. Wood picked off in the endzone. He is so damn good especially for his age. I have a hard time finding a better corner in the NFL.

Both of those penalties on Chuck were horse shit.

Chuck had his right arm wrapped around the receiver's waist like he was slow dancing with him in the endzone. Also bishop lined up offsides on that play as well so it was coming back regardless.

[Willard]

I thought the Packers did ok on both sides of the ball in certain aspects of the game. Still way too many mistakes which I hold McCarthy responsible for. Sloppy play has been a mainstay in Green Bay since McCarthy has been the head coach. The whole blame can't fall directly on him though, Thompson keeps giving him the youngest team in the NFL, young players make mistakes it is unavoidable.

Allen Barbre played pretty darn well tonight, I didn't hear his name and if he did give up a sack it wasn't because he got his butt kicked off the snap.

This offense is dangerous if the ball comes out quickly, but Rodgers can not hold on to it he isn't Ben Roth. Rodgers is struggling in the pocket which is partly his fault but his offensive line is terrible.

Run defense was unbelievable. The Packer sold out to stop the run but at least they did that right, especially considering that Peterson didn't break a tackle and then go 50 yards because everyone was up on the line. The Packers run defense was aggressive, good solid tackling.

Charles Woodson, Favre is no idiot no matter what the Wisconsin media and Packer fans care to say, Favre went after Woodson once and got a PI penalty on a pass C. Wood picked off in the endzone. He is so damn good especially for his age. I have a hard time finding a better corner in the NFL.

Mason Crosby has one hell of an onside kick.

Agree with all of this (CWood is our best player), but not sold on Barbre yet. You are probably wise to set the bar at "didn't hear his name" though. What I would like to see is some toughness in the running game. I thought the Barbre/Sitton right side was supposed to lead to a physical counter to the Williams wall. Pack ran OK, but not enough to scare defenses in the coming weeks.

It helps if Ryan Grant has more than 11 carries. The Packers were having some early success against a fired up Vikings defense, especially with the running game. McCarthy had to shut that down for what ever reason. McCarthy's qb got sacked 8 times for god's sake you would think to take that kind of heat off the pass blocking you would put the ball in the hands of your running game, wear down the front line of the Vikings even if your only gaining 2 or 3 yards a carry.

Agreed. Pound Grant behind Barbre/Sitton (and Kuhn if need be). I do like the fact that Grant also got 4 catches for a total of 15 touches and 100+ yards. I totally agreed with that aspect of the gameplan. Still, establishing the run could have been a life saver (or Rodgers saver) last night.

[CaptainKickass]

Here's a positive:

I'm positive we need help on the O-line.


Seriously - I can take the rest of the team as is. We just need to buy some time for Arod. He has no trust in those guys.