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  • #16
    Originally posted by Brando19
    Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
    I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by ThunderDan
      Originally posted by Brando19
      Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
      I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
      I doubt they would let Joe go, but that would sure be a nice deal for us.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by HowardRoark
        Originally posted by ThunderDan
        Originally posted by Brando19
        Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
        I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
        I doubt they would let Joe go, but that would sure be a nice deal for us.
        Hell yeah...Kampman for Joe Thomas. Get on the phone, Ted.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HowardRoark
          Originally posted by ThunderDan
          Originally posted by Brando19
          Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
          I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
          I doubt they would let Joe go, but that would sure be a nice deal for us.
          The Browns are monumentally stupid, but this is beyond even them. Perhaps If Joe Thomas played for the Bucs or the Raiders we might have a shot.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by ThunderDan
            Originally posted by Brando19
            Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
            I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
            No way are they going to give up a star LT in the middle of a rebuilding process.

            Nobody is going to trade during the season.

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            • #21
              1. Kampman was a 4-3 DE last year...and was relatively average. Sorry to break the news to you guys, but his best days as a pass rusher are behind him. He isn't going to rack up 12+ sacks in a season anymore.

              2. He is very effective in his current role...and should continue to improve. If anything, the switch will extend Kampy's career if he decides to stay in Green Bay.

              3. We ain't getting much of anything for him...so why trade him? 3rd round pick at best IMO.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by ThunderDan
                Originally posted by Brando19
                Okay...lets say TT decides to trade Kampman for a player or two to help the team immediately. Who do you trade him for?
                I can't think of any teams that are going to want to give away a starting left tackle. The only team I think that might would be the 0-4 Browns. I doubt it happens, we would have to throw in draft picks also.
                No way are they going to give up a star LT in the middle of a rebuilding process.

                Nobody is going to trade during the season.
                I am forced to conclude that Partial is indeed logical and correct on this point. Not even the Browns are this dumb. The Raiders? If you catch Al before a nap, you might have a chance.

                Kampman's situation, if it continues like this and he doesn't adjust (or he isn't put at DE full-time) is going to get ugly. To have leverage, the Packers will need to tag him and they will try to tag him as an OLB. There will be a grievance and all the while Ted will be trying to trade him to a 4-3 team. Fortunately, the Carolina Panthers are desperate enough to make this happen.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Leaper
                  1. Kampman was a 4-3 DE last year...and was relatively average. Sorry to break the news to you guys, but his best days as a pass rusher are behind him. He isn't going to rack up 12+ sacks in a season anymore.

                  2. He is very effective in his current role...and should continue to improve. If anything, the switch will extend Kampy's career if he decides to stay in Green Bay.

                  3. We ain't getting much of anything for him...so why trade him? 3rd round pick at best IMO.
                  Disagree with this assessment. The guy is powerful and explosive as 4-3 de. What are you seeing in his lb drops to indicate AK is a better 3-4 olb?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rbaloha
                    The guy is powerful and explosive as 4-3 de.
                    Really? I didn't see it last year. He wore down as the year went on. Had 9.5 sacks, but only 3.5 in the last 10 games.

                    He has NEVER been explosive as a 4-3 DE. The guy works his ass off and beats people through technique and a constant motor, not explosive athletic ability.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      Originally posted by rbaloha
                      The guy is powerful and explosive as 4-3 de.
                      Really? I didn't see it last year. He wore down as the year went on. Had 9.5 sacks, but only 3.5 in the last 10 games.

                      He has NEVER been explosive as a 4-3 DE. The guy works his ass off and beats people through technique and a constant motor, not explosive athletic ability.
                      AK has disproved that stereotype over the years. Possesses power and explosive moves like Reggie White and Howie Long.

                      Agree with your description early in Ak's career -- that can only take you so far. AK is still a premier rusher if used properly and a fish out of water if asking to drop in coverage.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rbaloha
                        AK has disproved that stereotype over the years. Possesses power and explosive moves like Reggie White and Howie Long.
                        Comparing Kampman and White or Long is a real stretch to say the least.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          Originally posted by rbaloha
                          AK has disproved that stereotype over the years. Possesses power and explosive moves like Reggie White and Howie Long.
                          Comparing Kampman and White or Long is a real stretch to say the least.
                          Just comparing certain moves. AK is not a hall of famer at this point.

                          Do not be surprised AK is a Viking next season.

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                          • #28
                            [quote="rbaloha
                            Do not be surprised AK is a Viking next season.[/quote]

                            Bingo!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rbaloha
                              Do not be surprised AK is a Viking next season.

                              If so, it would be yet another situation that blows up in TT's face.


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rbaloha
                                Originally posted by The Leaper
                                Originally posted by rbaloha
                                The guy is powerful and explosive as 4-3 de.
                                Really? I didn't see it last year. He wore down as the year went on. Had 9.5 sacks, but only 3.5 in the last 10 games.

                                He has NEVER been explosive as a 4-3 DE. The guy works his ass off and beats people through technique and a constant motor, not explosive athletic ability.
                                AK has disproved that stereotype over the years. Possesses power and explosive moves like Reggie White and Howie Long.

                                Agree with your description early in Ak's career -- that can only take you so far. AK is still a premier rusher if used properly and a fish out of water if asking to drop in coverage.
                                this is an example of love/homerism taking over. At no point have you countered his 3.5 sacks in the last 10 games.

                                AK is 31 next November...we are nearing the end. The trend is there to be seen..15, 12, 9.

                                Long was done at 33. Ak isn't near the physical freak Reggie was and Reggie was in decline during his time here. Take away his final season, an anomaly if there ever was one..and you have a guy who was a 10 sack guy..and who played with a dominant line.

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