McCarthy on the game

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

[MJZiggy]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Could be the 16 years of practice for BF...

[Spaulding]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

I doubt he's concerned with his stats. Players like that don't throw the ball into the end zone at the end of the half, they chuck it out of the end zone or dump it short so they don't get the cheap INT.

He never threw INT's at Cal, not a surprise he doesn't throw many in the NFL so far.

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Could be the 16 years of practice for BF...

BF's great intangibles and bad habits were apparent in 92.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

[MJZiggy]

I say yes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

How should Ty know. Are you actually pretending that you know which QBs can win SBs?

If your question is CAN arod win a SB...then ty would say yes.

Tap dancing: posed many questions..and you didn't answer. Would seem you are the one dancing. Your question, btw the way was answered....If arod follows in the career trajectory of Manning are you complaining. That answered the question.

Or, are you again pretending that you know that Arod is a stat monster like Manning, but then won't be able to win it like manning did?

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

How should Ty know. Are you actually pretending that you know which QBs can win SBs?

If you question is CAN arod win a SB...then ty would say yes.

Is Green Bay Titletown?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

How should Ty know. Are you actually pretending that you know which QBs can win SBs?

If you question is CAN arod win a SB...then ty would say yes.

Is Green Bay Titletown?

Yes.

Seems like you are still dancing.

Are you suggesting you know who can win superbowls?

[rbaloha1]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

How should Ty know. Are you actually pretending that you know which QBs can win SBs?

If you question is CAN arod win a SB...then ty would say yes.

Is Green Bay Titletown?

Yes.

Seems like you are still dancing.

Are you suggesting you know who can win superbowls?

Shall we dance?

[mraynrand]

Did anyone ask McCarthy if he thought his defensive line looked like a bunch of fools giving Favre 7 seconds to throw the ball? Was that the scheme to apply no pressure, or did the linemen just give up?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty is still waiting for you answer.

Are you saying you know that Arod won't win a SB? You are able to tell which QBs are going to win?

Is it you know which won't or that you can determine which can't?