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    Mike Vandermause column: Green Bay Packers' good intentions don't put W's in win column

    By Mike Vandermause • mvandermause@greenbaypressgazette.com • October 10, 2009


    If only the Green Bay Packers would have followed through on their good intentions, they might not be languishing in third place in the NFC North.

    It’s one thing to talk the talk, but in many key areas the Packers have failed to walk the walk.

    Is it any wonder the Packers are struggling, when you consider how many times they have broken their resolutions this year?

    Let’s look at several examples that help explain their plight:
    The run game

    Coach Mike McCarthy has steadfastly said he’s committed to running the football. Yet there always seems to be an excuse why it doesn’t happen.

    Maybe it’s unfavorable down-and-distance situations, or the flow of the game, or any number of other reasons. In reality, McCarthy doesn’t have much confidence in his run game.

    The Packers rank 22nd in the NFL in rushing yards per game and 28th in attempts per game, but even those below-average figures are deceptively high because quarterback Aaron Rodgers has rushed 17 times for 104 yards. Take away Rodgers’ scrambles and the Packers would rank No. 30 in rushing yards and No. 31 in attempts.

    Those are terrible numbers for a team that supposedly wants to pound the ball on the ground late in the season when the weather turns nasty. It stems from a combination of factors: The offensive line is failing to open holes, Ryan Grant isn’t taking full advantage of his opportunities and there isn’t a credible change-of-pace back on the roster that can keep defenses honest.

    It’s hard to blame McCarthy for not running more often when all of those factors are working against him. But the buck stops with him, and his insistence on sticking with the zone-blocking scheme must be scrutinized. In McCarthy’s four seasons, the Packers have ranked 23rd, 21st, 17th and 22nd in rushing yards. Whatever excuse is offered, the fact remains those numbers aren’t good enough.
    Penalties

    How often have we heard McCarthy talk about cleaning things up regarding the Packers’ penchant for penalties? Yet the trend of the past four years shows no signs of letting up this season. The Packers rank 12th in penalties and are on pace to finish with close to the second-highest single-season total since McCarthy arrived.

    This category alone won’t kill a team, as evidenced by the Packers leading the league in penalties in 2007 yet finishing 13-3. But when combined with several other problem areas, it can take a serious toll.

    You have to wonder if there’s a proper level of accountability when someone like Jarrett Bush, who has a penalty-prone reputation on special teams, was rewarded with a hefty raise after last season.
    The offensive line

    The Packers were bound and determined to stop shuffling their offensive linemen to provide more stability. Yet as soon as left tackle Chad Clifton went down with an injury, the game of musical chairs began with Daryn Colledge shifting to left tackle and Jason Spitz to left guard. It put the Packers in the precarious position of having two players lined up away from their best positions, and two players on the right side (Allen Barbre and Josh Sitton) with a combined two career starts.

    The results have been disastrous. The Packers lead the NFL in sacks allowed by a wide margin with 20. Just five other teams have given up more than 11 sacks this season, a stunning indication of how bad things are. At this rate, the Packers will shatter the single-season record for sacks, and quarterback Aaron Rodgers will suffer a serious injury.

    The blame rests squarely on General Manager Ted Thompson’s shoulders, and the Clifton injury is no good excuse. Thompson has been given five years to construct an offensive line, but his inability to provide the Packers with an adequate backup at one of the most important positions was inexcusable. An injury to a 33-year-old tackle shouldn’t send the entire house of cards tumbling, but that is what happened.
    Signing of free agents

    Thompson’s offseason decision to sign free agent safety Anthony Smith, who played three years in the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 3-4 defense and had 14 career starts to his credit, spoke volumes about the need for a veteran backup in the secondary. But when injury-prone Atari Bigby went down early, Smith was nowhere to be found. Thompson cut him coming out of training camp.

    That proved costly in a pair of losses. Third-year player Aaron Rouse was so bad in his start against the Cincinnati Bengals that the Packers cut him. Derrick Martin, with a mere three career starts, was exposed by Brett Favre as an impostor in the Packers’ loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Martin wasn’t ready for a starting role and played badly enough to get yanked from the lineup.

    Thompson knew his team needed depth at safety, yet he inexplicably put the Packers in a vulnerable position. Veteran cornerback Charles Woodson was so frustrated that he publicly pointed to Smith’s absence as a factor in the loss to the Vikings. It’s never good when the general manager is correctly called out by one of his players.
    The basics

    The Packers have blamed some of their struggles on a breakdown in fundamentals. After months of practice that included organized team activities, minicamp, training camp, the preseason and a month’s worth of regular-season games, you would think the fundamentals wouldn’t be an issue. Yet that’s what we keep hearing.

    So either the coaches aren’t effectively imparting their message, the players aren’t taking that information and applying it, or it’s a combination of both. Or, perhaps “flawed fundamentals” is code for not being as good as your opponent.
    The new 3-4 defense

    When it was repeatedly suggested there might be growing pains adapting to the 3-4 defense, Thompson and the Packers coaches generally downplayed the notion. One month into the season, lo and behold, the new scheme is suffering through its share of ups and downs.

    The defense can’t seem to put together a game in which it stops both the run and pass. It’s been an either/or proposition.

    The Packers’ belief that they could successfully switch to a new scheme without upgrading the talent looks like flawed thinking at this point. Last year under Bob Sanders, the Packers’ defense ranked a subpar No. 22 in points allowed. After four games under new coordinator Dom Capers, the Packers rank exactly the same.

    Most alarming has been a lack of pressure on the quarterback. The Packers ranked a lowly 25th in defensive sacks last year with 27, or an average of 1.7 per game. So far this year, the Packers have dropped to 26th in sacks at 1.25 per game.

    It’s one thing to talk about upgrading the defense, but like so many other areas on this team, it’s another to carry it out.

    Mike Vandermause is sports editor of the Press-Gazette.
    Thanks Ted!

  • #2
    The blame rests squarely on General Manager Ted Thompson’s shoulders, and the Clifton injury is no good excuse. Thompson has been given five years to construct an offensive line, but his inability to provide the Packers with an adequate backup at one of the most important positions was inexcusable. An injury to a 33-year-old tackle shouldn’t send the entire house of cards tumbling, but that is what happened.
    Signing of free agents

    Thompson’s offseason decision to sign free agent safety Anthony Smith, who played three years in the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 3-4 defense and had 14 career starts to his credit, spoke volumes about the need for a veteran backup in the secondary. But when injury-prone Atari Bigby went down early, Smith was nowhere to be found. Thompson cut him coming out of training camp.

    That proved costly in a pair of losses. Third-year player Aaron Rouse was so bad in his start against the Cincinnati Bengals that the Packers cut him. Derrick Martin, with a mere three career starts, was exposed by Brett Favre as an impostor in the Packers’ loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Martin wasn’t ready for a starting role and played badly enough to get yanked from the lineup.

    Thompson knew his team needed depth at safety, yet he inexplicably put the Packers in a vulnerable position. Veteran cornerback Charles Woodson was so frustrated that he publicly pointed to Smith’s absence as a factor in the loss to the Vikings. It’s never good when the general manager is correctly called out by one of his players.



    I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I AM NOT THE AUTHOR
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      That article smacks TT in the belly and it tells the truth. How long will he go on with so few real answers. Maybe I'm too impatient.

      The " we like what we have here's " are old. Where is the depth on our team? The growth? The signs for optimism? Really.
      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
      ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
      ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
      ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        The blame rests squarely on General Manager Ted Thompson’s shoulders, and the Clifton injury is no good excuse. Thompson has been given five years to construct an offensive line, but his inability to provide the Packers with an adequate backup at one of the most important positions was inexcusable. An injury to a 33-year-old tackle shouldn’t send the entire house of cards tumbling, but that is what happened.
        Signing of free agents

        Thompson’s offseason decision to sign free agent safety Anthony Smith, who played three years in the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 3-4 defense and had 14 career starts to his credit, spoke volumes about the need for a veteran backup in the secondary. But when injury-prone Atari Bigby went down early, Smith was nowhere to be found. Thompson cut him coming out of training camp.

        That proved costly in a pair of losses. Third-year player Aaron Rouse was so bad in his start against the Cincinnati Bengals that the Packers cut him. Derrick Martin, with a mere three career starts, was exposed by Brett Favre as an impostor in the Packers’ loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Martin wasn’t ready for a starting role and played badly enough to get yanked from the lineup.

        Thompson knew his team needed depth at safety, yet he inexplicably put the Packers in a vulnerable position. Veteran cornerback Charles Woodson was so frustrated that he publicly pointed to Smith’s absence as a factor in the loss to the Vikings. It’s never good when the general manager is correctly called out by one of his players.



        I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I AM NOT THE AUTHOR
        Mike Vandermause appears to want TT called to the mat. Personally I'll admit I have had (have) little faith in our GM. He needs to give 100% to improving the Packers every day and be really out there trying 'at least' in most Packer fan eyes.
        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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        • #5
          Personally I'm still optimistic in this squad and with a bright young QB I think we're headed in the right direction.

          Ted Drafts well overall.
          He got us a QB and Promising WR's

          But IMO he's failed us on he OL and has had enough time.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            A pretty good summary of issues so far. Some quick and probably incomplete thoughts b4 I run out the door...

            Agree on penalties -- to a point. Offensive penalties are more concerning than D. Often seems like aggressive D draws more penalties. That said, our O is ranked 3 right now.

            Do we look better w/o injuries to LT and SS? Jared Allen sure made our LT issue look pretty bad. SS is a nettlesome problem. I think they gambled on Martin and found he wasn't as ready as they'd hoped. That and Bigby went down right off the bat. Given Atari's history, maybe the risk/reward was not there. I wish I knew the whole story on Smith, but it probably wasn't just TT's decision to cut him.

            We've also played one of the harder schedules to start the season: 2 3-1 teams and a 4-0 team among our first 3 games.
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #7
              I think half of those sacks ARod held the ball too long, TT cutting Smith was baffling, maybe he was hard to coach? If M3 says he's going to be more committed to running the ball then do it! The offense is so predictable. There is no excuse for them to not be grooming new tackles by now. The more I look at this team I see the same problems from a year ago.
              Thanks Ted!

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              • #8
                wow, great article

                i can't argue with any of it

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                • #9
                  You just wait until Justin Harrell the poster sees this article. He'll tell Mike Vandermause that he leads an unhappy life with so much hate built up inside!


                  [begin sarcasm]
                  I'm a much happier person since I grudgingly admitted that Ted's way is the right way.

                  This season is totally Rodgers fault - the offensive line is JUST FINE. Ted really has provided us with a consistently versatile group of guys, who are just punching bags for the real issue. [end sarcasm]

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                  • #10
                    I can't comment much on Smith versus Martin, save for experience in the system. Smith had an undeniable edge there. If Martin is the better pro prospect (not just special teams), then its understandable. Its also understandable that while effectively this was the switch, it was the presence of Rouse that cost Martin a spot on cut down day.

                    But the twin Rouse decisions are baffling. Missed all but a week and a half of camp and then was retained despite his known limitations moving in space and the little playing time in the new system. Then when injury made it imperative he play acceptably, he failed and was cut. This and backup tackle are the real questions for T2.

                    Patler might want to weigh on this, but unlike the Corey Williams trade, where in March/April it looked like the Packer's had depth at tackle, Jenkins was healthy and KGB would recover in plenty of time from a simple arthroscopic procedure, it was never clear at the beginning of 09 that we had a true backup left tackle. The answer's were eventually Moll and Meredith.

                    Moll getting traded for Smith is fine if Meredith can man the position. But he can't and ends up on the practice squad so we can keep 6 guards + centers on the 53 man roster.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #11
                      Yeah, some of this stuff baffles me as well.
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by packrulz
                        I think half of those sacks ARod held the ball too long, TT cutting Smith was baffling, maybe he was hard to coach? If M3 says he's going to be more committed to running the ball then do it! The offense is so predictable. There is no excuse for them to not be grooming new tackles by now. The more I look at this team I see the same problems from a year ago.
                        Rodgers Responsibility for Sacks
                        Vikings 3 of 8
                        Bengals 1 of 2
                        Bengals 1 of 6
                        Bears 1 of 4

                        McGinn is not consistent assigning responsibility for each pressure, hit or hurry, so these numbers do not speak to his culpability there, but Rodgers is clearly not David Carr back there. If the pressure continues, however, he will probably get there eventually.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          I'm bothered more by the way were playing than the 2-2 record.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                            I'm bothered more by the way were playing than the 2-2 record.
                            oh absolutely

                            it seems like this team is regressing as a whole, instead of progressing like a young team should

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                            • #15
                              Every week we have those 3 FBs on the 53 man squad, I lose a little confidence in Ted.
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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