Good Intentions

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I really don't think they're going to fire Fisher, especially after the previous few winning seasons. He's had really bad stretches in the past, don't forget. They lost a superstar and are paying the price. They turned over D coordinators. They banked on an old QB (who isn't a timeless wonder like another one). In my opinion, there record isn't totally shocking given the competition they've played.

Fisher will stick around there past this season. You can count on that. In the crazy event he does not, hell yes, fire MM and send the brigade down to knock on his door (ala Rex Ryan to Bart Scott) and demand he comes with.

[Zool]

If you are a shithead day in day out eventually you get your ass tossed. It's that simple.

Skin and Nutz were discussing this very topic in another thread.

[Deputy Nutz]

If you are a shithead day in day out eventually you get your ass tossed. It's that simple.

Skin and Nutz were discussing this very topic in another thread.

The skinbasket is one sick nut, I have no idea where he got the idea to post those disgusting pictures .

[Deputy Nutz]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

[pbmax]

I don't think Shanahan or Cowher will consider a situation unless they get final say. They will compromise on the personnel guy, but only if they get final word.

Holmgren is going to want to approve the personnel guy. And Holmgren has enough charm and notches on his belt to get another combo coach-GM gig.

[retailguy]

I don't think Shanahan or Cowher will consider a situation unless they get final say. They will compromise on the personnel guy, but only if they get final word.

Holmgren is going to want to approve the personnel guy. And Holmgren has enough charm and notches on his belt to get another combo coach-GM gig.

Yeah, all three of these guys will "probably" get what they want.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Murphy canned both Thompson and McCarthy and we wound up with Holmgren part 2? I'd sense that'd piss a lot of people off based on how he left in 1998...

Edit - Already Shanahan to DC rumors out there.... Claiming a private deal in the works too! I'm betting that Cowher lands in Carolina. Shanahan and Holmgren get fought over between Dallas and Washington, with the loser going to Dallas...

[The Shadow]

2-2 and already discussing a housecleaning?
My, my.

[Deputy Nutz]

I don't think Shanahan or Cowher will consider a situation unless they get final say. They will compromise on the personnel guy, but only if they get final word.

Holmgren is going to want to approve the personnel guy. And Holmgren has enough charm and notches on his belt to get another combo coach-GM gig.

I think if there is a balance there between Cowher/Shanahan with a GM or VP of player personnel I am ok. They are too good of coaches and they know what they need to run their systems.

I keep forgetting about Cowher, if he would be just the little bitty bit interested I would give him the farm.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Cowher, Shanny. Holmy are gonna want 8-10 mill a year.

You guys honestly think we are gonna pay that kind of cheddar?

[bobblehead]

I really don't think they're going to fire Fisher, especially after the previous few winning seasons. He's had really bad stretches in the past, don't forget. They lost a superstar and are paying the price. They turned over D coordinators. They banked on an old QB (who isn't a timeless wonder like another one). In my opinion, there record isn't totally shocking given the competition they've played.

Fisher will stick around there past this season. You can count on that. In the crazy event he does not, hell yes, fire MM and send the brigade down to knock on his door (ala Rex Ryan to Bart Scott) and demand he comes with.

Now that is rich...you are criticizing a team for sticking with an older QB the very season after he went 13-3....and its not like he retired then tried to come back on the eve of training camp after missing all the off season work...priceless.

[bobblehead]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

I agree with you...but you realize that he runs the ZBS right?

[Fritz]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

I agree with you...but you realize that he runs the ZBS right?

Doesn't that just make him an even more natural hire if MM gets the Ziggy? (Not the MJ Ziggy)

[Deputy Nutz]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

I agree with you...but you realize that he runs the ZBS right?

Regardless what he runs, it works.

[Brando19]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

I agree with you...but you realize that he runs the ZBS right?

Regardless what he runs, it works.

I wouldn't mind Shannahan. One name everyone is in love with is Bill Cowher...but I am not. Look how long it took him to win a SB. How about Mike Holmgren back in Green Bay?

[Partial]

but if the team stays relatively healthy but finishes 9-7, even if they win their last three or four in a row - man, I don't know.

Guess I'll know more as the season progresses.

If GB finishes 8-8 or higher, I don't see either McCarthy or Thompson getting canned - after all, it will be at least a 2 game improvement in the win column over last year, and if Murphy wants to keep those guys and takes a lot of questions on the subject, he will certainly point to that as a reason to keep them.

I still like both McCarthy and Thompson for the most part. That said, if Tennessee continues to lose at this rate Fisher might not make it to 2010, and I would be very happy to dump McCarthy and hire him if he is available.

The name I was pondering was Mike Shannahan. You can't argue with his record and his ability to put together a very good offensive line and running game. His team fell apart on him especially on the defensive side of the ball in 2008, but the man can coach. I don't think you give him full control and authority on all things management, but he is a very good coach.

I agree with you...but you realize that he runs the ZBS right?

Regardless what he runs, it works.

I wouldn't mind Shannahan. One name everyone is in love with is Bill Cowher...but I am not. Look how long it took him to win a SB. How about Mike Holmgren back in Green Bay?

More of a QB problem then anything imo. They had Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddux and a few other guys (I'm sure) running the show in between Neil O'Donnell and the super bowl berth of 95-96 to 2005 when they made it with Roethlisberger. They went to championship at least 3 times in 10 years, which is extremely impressive imo.