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Interesting column this morning from Pete Dougherty on Ted Thompson and his reluctance to sign free agents:
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Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
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Re: Dougherty: "Packers need free agent help"
At best, this is a pretty lazy piece:Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
a.) Take obvious team deficiency -- T here.
b.) Take cliched argument, rehash it
c.) Give 25 bucks to your "scouts" down at the pub for some quotes
d.) Insert smarmy statements like "sounds like blah-blah-blah don't you think?"
Not only that, but they mention free agent pickups and just act like those don't actually count because they're not a given position. Ted Thompson sucks because he didn't pick up a FA RT who is now doing shiftwork on another team. Hey, maybe they actually thought Tausch might come back after rehab!
There's legitimate discussion to be had about the risk/reward ratio of our LEFT tackle issues but it almost seems like they read Fritz's post the other day on team improvement mad libs and decided to use it for a template.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.Comment
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Still like TT's approach. However with cap space and the obvious weaknesses, TT may have to increase fa signings.Comment
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BLASPHEMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What we need are more draft pics
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Wasn't Tausch a free agent?"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg JenningsComment
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You are pretty new to this game. Signed free agents don't factor into the equation, unless they suck. When evaluating a GM you don't like, you can only consider free agents that were not signed or those that were and sucked.Originally posted by MJZiggy
Discount Chillar's import, right after you complain that he isn't playing more. Ignore Woodson. Pickett who? Resigned players that never hit the open market because of a healthy cap situation? Nice, but not important. Trading for Grant? A lucky hit and besides Grant isn't playing well. Who cares that it was for a sixth round pick and helped get them to the NFC championship game?
Should've signed more FAs...riiight.
The problem isn't the lack of FA's. The problem is crappy play by the O-line in general, compounded by an injury to the 2nd most important position on the team. But, a lack of FA siginings is just easier to shout about when you are waving you pitchforks and torches.
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you can never have enough guys with "potential"Originally posted by wist43BLASPHEMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What we need are more draft pics
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it was tongue in cheek humor...Originally posted by sharpe1027You are pretty new to this game. Signed free agents don't factor into the equation, unless they suck. When evaluating a GM you don't like, you can only consider free agents that were not signed or those that were and sucked.Originally posted by MJZiggy
Discount Chillar's import, right after you complain that he isn't playing more. Ignore Woodson. Pickett who? Resigned players that never hit the open market because of a healthy cap situation? Nice, but not important. Trading for Grant? A lucky hit and besides Grant isn't playing well. Who cares that it was for a sixth round pick and helped get them to the NFC championship game?
Should've signed more FAs...riiight.
The problem isn't the lack of FA's. The problem is crappy play by the O-line in general, compounded by an injury to the 2nd most important position on the team. But, a lack of FA siginings is just easier to shout about when you are waving you pitchforks and torches.Comment
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Yes it was...Originally posted by retailguyit was tongue in cheek humor...Originally posted by sharpe1027You are pretty new to this game. Signed free agents don't factor into the equation, unless they suck. When evaluating a GM you don't like, you can only consider free agents that were not signed or those that were and sucked.Originally posted by MJZiggy
Discount Chillar's import, right after you complain that he isn't playing more. Ignore Woodson. Pickett who? Resigned players that never hit the open market because of a healthy cap situation? Nice, but not important. Trading for Grant? A lucky hit and besides Grant isn't playing well. Who cares that it was for a sixth round pick and helped get them to the NFC championship game?
Should've signed more FAs...riiight.
The problem isn't the lack of FA's. The problem is crappy play by the O-line in general, compounded by an injury to the 2nd most important position on the team. But, a lack of FA siginings is just easier to shout about when you are waving you pitchforks and torches.Comment
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Re: Dougherty: "Packers need free agent help"
So where's my twenty-five bucks?Originally posted by denverYooper
PS - Look how I edited your post (in italics). Fun!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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The only reason we would need more FA's than we have is that TT didn't hit/develope his picks. We have run several safetys and linemen through that we drafted, not like we didn't try to upgrade the positions. We just aren't hitting on enough picks atm. NOW, someone tell me how many 1sts and 2nds we have spent on OL and safety (our main 2 weaknesses). I'll help by stating my memory (which might be wrong). College and Collins. And they both hit. Problem is we had too many holes/aging vets when TT took over.
Thats not excusing him mind you, 5 years is enough time for a good GM to fill all voids. TT needs to use whatever method necessary to shore up the safeties and tackles (injuries don't help him, but they happen).
Unfortunately I see history repeating...about the time he shores up those spots we are going to have 2 aging CB's who's game is slipping and only one young replacement (who is currently the nickel, thus creating another hole).The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Tough times in Packerland at the moment.
A victory against Detroit won't quell much of the uneasiness, but it would be a start."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Every team has holes and problems.
There is no perfect team. We need X to win is not the answer.
Good teams find a way to win. The hide their weaknesses and accent their strengths, and get it done. GB '07 to GB '08, Tn '08 to Tn '09. Largely the same team in both cases. Both had a spark in their 13-3 year that just isn't there the next year.
You can go around digging under rocks, looking for people to fire, coaches that can make that spark consistently are very rare (Vince L. for example), the FO can throw all the talent in the world together, that doesn't mean that spark is created. Some players help to create it, but really it is created by a collection of the locker room and team.
The 13-3 year there were many key players remaining from the '03-04 seasons, when we get red hot for long stretches. Those guys are fading fast, but now we have a young team that was around for the 13-3 year. They have to find it for themselves. They have to figure out, as a team, how to win. Once they do, this will be one very good team, for a long time.
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Kinda like the way I comb my hair over?Originally posted by Waldo"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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