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  • #61
    Originally posted by Administrator

    I just don't understand what you're trying to prove by bringing up Sherman. Shouldn't you be arguing instead that we should stand pat and do nothing? Perhaps that would lead to the discussion of what you think should be done about the OL... or maybe you think it's fine?
    So he gets to bring up how great Wolf's signings are and I can't show how crappy Shermans were?

    I pointed out that Woodson has been a stud for GB but that wasn't enough; you have to bring a Reggie White over to be a success in FA.

    You know why no one is crying for Albert? Because he is injuried and not performing. If he had 4 sacks already it would just be a matter of time before the "TT doesn't have the balls to sign a premuim FA" threads would start.

    Also, when did I say the Packers shouldn't use FA to help the team? I never have and never will. But its a hell of a lot easier to scream that the barn is on fire than to point out actual free agents that we should have and could have brought in.

    At the end of the preseason the Packers were the national media's darling. There was talk of deep playoff runs and high rankings in power ratings. Where were all the people than complaining that we needed a FA LT to shore up the line or that our safety issues would once again hurt the D?

    It is really, really easy to bitch 5 weeks into the season when things haven't gone as easy as planned. Right now our two losses are against a 5-0 team at their place and a 4-1 team that beat Baltimore at home.

    I am not ready to throw in the towel on the 2009 season.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by ThunderDan
      Originally posted by Administrator

      I just don't understand what you're trying to prove by bringing up Sherman. Shouldn't you be arguing instead that we should stand pat and do nothing? Perhaps that would lead to the discussion of what you think should be done about the OL... or maybe you think it's fine?
      So he gets to bring up how great Wolf's signings are and I can't show how crappy Shermans were?

      I pointed out that Woodson has been a stud for GB but that wasn't enough; you have to bring a Reggie White over to be a success in FA.

      You know why no one is crying for Albert? Because he is injuried and not performing. If he had 4 sacks already it would just be a matter of time before the "TT doesn't have the balls to sign a premuim FA" threads would start.

      Also, when did I say the Packers shouldn't use FA to help the team? I never have and never will. But its a hell of a lot easier to scream that the barn is on fire than to point out actual free agents that we should have and could have brought in.

      At the end of the preseason the Packers were the national media's darling. There was talk of deep playoff runs and high rankings in power ratings. Where were all the people than complaining that we needed a FA LT to shore up the line or that our safety issues would once again hurt the D?

      It is really, really easy to bitch 5 weeks into the season when things haven't gone as easy as planned. Right now our two losses are against a 5-0 team at their place and a 4-1 team that beat Baltimore at home.

      I am not ready to throw in the towel on the 2009 season.
      Good Thunder, Dan

      I actually have a Packer towel - not throwing it away. :P
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      • #63
        I think that TT's approach to FA is very simple and effective, but it doesn't lead to big yields.

        He slow plays them all. Opens the door and invites players that he's chosen to come to the Packers, and waits. Any guys that want to become Packers will do so. Guys that don't, or guys chasing around dollar signs, won't.

        It seems to make the bust rate fairly low, and the guys seem to really love playing for the team. But, you are going to miss out on a lot of guys this way (like the great C. Canty for example).

        The thing to keep in mind, FA has changed so much. Back in the 90's a good % of players tested FA, and many played for several teams. As we've reached the 00's, teams are getting better at resigning their guys, players are seeing the value in sticking with a team. Teams are getting much better at short and long term cap management. It has been a long time since the last true "cap hell" team dump, which used to be fairly frequent occurances. In other words, the yearly crop is only a fraction of what it once was.

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