Steven Jackson Trade?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You are making some poor logic. Regardless of Barbre or Tausch, Jamon couldn't beat either of them out.

Now, if you are really saying that our coaches can't eval talent then that is something else.

Or, maybe, the light turned on for him. Way to many variables.

Also, it is kinda foolish to compare us to Buff without knowing what they are coaching and asking him to do.

Moll: Or that he is asked to do something we don't do.

Jamon: What would you expect them to say? Not saying he couldn't be a find...as TT has found guys as well. But, i dare say we could find quotes about Whittaker that would be just as glowing.

[Guiness]

The bottom of the roster is T2's preserve. Philbin and Campen don't get to pick the last two O line players. They get to give a report on whether they can play this year. Same with Perry and the safeties.

They must have said that Meridith couldn't play this year because he was too raw. Since Buffalo is proving that he can play, their report really means that they weren't capable of coaching well enough to get him ready to play. The results of the rest of the line are proving that fact out all too well. The Packers may not have the greatest OL talent, but these coaches would find a way to make the mid 90's Dallas line suck.

the pack wanted him at LT, he is playing RT.

Are we really going to 2nd guess our staff when he was on our practice squad and he is now the 4th RT to play for the Bills.

He's the 4th guy to start at RT for the Bills? I'm guessing that if he was still with us, by the time we lost 3 other starters, he would've been elevated from the ps and trotted out.

He's started one game. We can hardly make a decision based on that fact. But if he sticks, and becomes their regular starter, it certainly doesn't look good for the staff's ability to evaluate talent. They obviously had a better chance to look at him than anyone else.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The bottom of the roster is T2's preserve. Philbin and Campen don't get to pick the last two O line players. They get to give a report on whether they can play this year. Same with Perry and the safeties.

They must have said that Meridith couldn't play this year because he was too raw. Since Buffalo is proving that he can play, their report really means that they weren't capable of coaching well enough to get him ready to play. The results of the rest of the line are proving that fact out all too well. The Packers may not have the greatest OL talent, but these coaches would find a way to make the mid 90's Dallas line suck.

the pack wanted him at LT, he is playing RT.

Are we really going to 2nd guess our staff when he was on our practice squad and he is now the 4th RT to play for the Bills.

He's the 4th guy to start at RT for the Bills? I'm guessing that if he was still with us, by the time we lost 3 other starters, he would've been elevated from the ps and trotted out.

He's started one game. We can hardly make a decision based on that fact. But if he sticks, and becomes their regular starter, it certainly doesn't look good for the staff's ability to evaluate talent. They obviously had a better chance to look at him than anyone else.

Yes. The 4th.

Staff: All staff's find and lose guys. If there has been one thing TT has consistently is find FAs and low round scrap heap guys that could play. Losing one ain't gonna change my view on him. Might change my view on Campen though.

One game: Agreed. If he gets roasted next game does he suck? In order to make a judgement about him we need more data. Ty will say that i liked him and thought he could play eventually, but advocated his release for fear of multiple ham jokes...and the eventually Michael Jackson jokes.

Jamon, Jamon!!

[retailguy]

Whew. I thought you'd joined the list of "evil free agency morons".

You know how it is around here. If you've heard of the guy, he's overpriced, unless he is a current packer.

I knew that Will Witherspoon signing would come back to haunt them!

Traded to Philly - CAP HIT. They're screwed now!

[MadScientist]

Regardless of Barbre or Tausch, Jamon couldn't beat either of them out.

Tauch wasn't there to beat out, but no, at the end of camp he wasn't at the level of the others and as we found out the level of the others wasn't all that good.

Now, if you are really saying that our coaches can't eval talent then that is something else.

Or, maybe, the light turned on for him. Way to many variables.

I'm not saying they can't evaluate the talent. I'm saying they can't coach well enough to develop it.

Also, it is kinda foolish to compare us to Buff without knowing what they are coaching and asking him to do.

Moll: Or that he is asked to do something we don't do.

Yea, they'll be asked to block.

Jamon: What would you expect them to say? Not saying he couldn't be a find...as TT has found guys as well. But, i dare say we could find quotes about Whittaker that would be just as glowing.

The puff piece quotes are common during minicamps and training camps, but less so during the season when the games count (at least they were with Whittaker )

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Regardless of Barbre or Tausch, Jamon couldn't beat either of them out.

Tauch wasn't there to beat out, but no, at the end of camp he wasn't at the level of the others and as we found out the level of the others wasn't all that good.

Now, if you are really saying that our coaches can't eval talent then that is something else.

Or, maybe, the light turned on for him. Way to many variables.

I'm not saying they can't evaluate the talent. I'm saying they can't coach well enough to develop it.

Also, it is kinda foolish to compare us to Buff without knowing what they are coaching and asking him to do.

Moll: Or that he is asked to do something we don't do.

Yea, they'll be asked to block.

Jamon: What would you expect them to say? Not saying he couldn't be a find...as TT has found guys as well. But, i dare say we could find quotes about Whittaker that would be just as glowing.

The puff piece quotes are common during minicamps and training camps, but less so during the season when the games count (at least they were with Whittaker )

1. So, he couldn't beat out Barbre. And, TT knowing that Tausch was prolly going to be resigned knew he couldn't beat him out.

2. Are you really gonna evaluate our coaching based on Jamon and one start? That seems pretty foolish. Spitz has developed, Sitton as well, and Colledge as well. Even Barbre is coming along.

3. Yeah, all blocking schemes are the same.

4. Again, what would you expect them to say? They are on their 4th tackle. You want them to destroy what confidence he has so they have to replace him with another tackle.

[MadScientist]

2. Are you really gonna evaluate our coaching based on Jamon and one start? That seems pretty foolish. Spitz has developed, Sitton as well, and Colledge as well. Even Barbre is coming along.

No, I'm basing it on poor line play for the Packers the last 4 years. There's been a lot of bitching around here about TT's ability to draft linemen as the cause of this, but I think a bigger problem is the coaching. If Sitton, Colledge and Spitz have developed and Barbre is coming along, then how come the OL is so poor?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

2. Are you really gonna evaluate our coaching based on Jamon and one start? That seems pretty foolish. Spitz has developed, Sitton as well, and Colledge as well. Even Barbre is coming along.

No, I'm basing it on poor line play for the Packers the last 4 years. There's been a lot of bitching around here about TT's ability to draft linemen as the cause of this, but I think a bigger problem is the coaching. If Sitton, Colledge and Spitz have developed and Barbre is coming along, then how come the OL is so poor?

The Oline was so poor last year that we were 6th in offense? Or the year we went to the NFC championship game?

Sitt, Coll, Barbre...2 first year starters, people out of position, missing your starting tackle, etc.

Cohesion is HUGELY important for a oline to function optimally.

Bitching: There are certain posters that will always bitch and there are others that will use any excuse to rail against TT.

We are 3-2 and certain posters act like we are 0-5. We lost 2 two teams leading their division. Oline can perform better. No doubt. Let's see how things progress.

Ty saw this team at 9 or 10 wins. Still sticking with it. Doesn't matter if the Oline sucks, the ST suck, the rbs suck, etc.....all that counts is wins.

[pbmax]

The bottom of the roster is T2's preserve. Philbin and Campen don't get to pick the last two O line players. They get to give a report on whether they can play this year. Same with Perry and the safeties.

They must have said that Meridith couldn't play this year because he was too raw. Since Buffalo is proving that he can play, their report really means that they weren't capable of coaching well enough to get him ready to play. The results of the rest of the line are proving that fact out all too well. The Packers may not have the greatest OL talent, but these coaches would find a way to make the mid 90's Dallas line suck.

I give you starting Daryn Colledge at Left Tackle and Tony Moll at any position as proof that being asked to play and doing it well are two different things. It was one game and they scored 13 points. Not much to judge.

Although the Buffalo paper does mention that Meredith is the 4th RT to start for them, they did play well versus the Jets.