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  • #46
    Originally posted by packerbacker1234
    I know this: Driver is really good, and I think we all underapreciate him still.
    I don't think anyone underappreciates him. Driver simply disappears in the red zone...which is one reason why we can't score down there. He's probably one of the 5 best receivers currently in the NFL between the 20s...but he is a liability in the red zone.

    Hutson or Sharpe...those guys were a threat anywhere on the field at any time. They exhibited dominance that Driver has never achieved, despite a very high level of play.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by packerbacker1234
      I have a hard time believing there are a dozen guys this year you would take over Driver.

      Lets see, maybe Moss... and who? Driver has been studly this season. Has yet another probowl trip ont he radar.
      Larry Fitzgerald
      Q
      Reggie Wayne
      Brandon Marshall
      Dwayne Bowe
      Greg Jennings
      Andre Johnson
      Steve Smith
      Lee Evans
      Roddy white
      Wes Welker
      Santonio Holmes
      Hines Ward
      Housh
      Ocho Cinco
      Marques Colston
      Desean Jackson
      Calvin Johnson

      About 5-10 more i could list that are perhaps debatable. I listed 18 right off the top of my head.

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      • #48
        Over about 10 years, Hutson lead the league in receiving touchdowns 9 times, receptions 8 times, yards 7 times and yards/catch 2 times. Nobody has ever come close to being so consistently dominate.

        Those that want to argue that players are just better today...what is the point in making these types of comparisons? All sports change over time so I think the only fair comparison is against the guys on the field at the same time and how much better you are compared to them.

        Give Hutson the benefit of today's training and other advantages in the rules and the pass-happy offenses and who knows? Maybe he would still have been dominate today. No way to know or even to make a solid argument about it.

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        • #49
          Hutson and frankly, it's not really close.
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          • #50
            The argument for Hutson is a bit like the argument of why Babe Ruth was a superior baseball player to either Hank Aaron or Willie Mays when you are comparing players across eras. The margin between Hutson and his contemporaries is far larger than the gap between any of the more recent Packers receivers, just as Ruth was so far ahead of nearly all of his contemporaries. That's a sign that you are a game changing player, and I think it fits for Ruth and Hutson.

            Incidentally, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has an online poll on this topic. 3,462 votes are in, and here are the results:

            Don Hutson 35%
            Sterling Sharpe 25%
            Donald Driver 23%
            James Lofton 13%
            Boyd Dowler 2%
            "Someone else": 2%


            That looks about right, though I would have Lofton quite a bit higher. I wonder who the "someone else" voters had in mind: Carroll Dale? Gary Knafelc? Antonio Freeman?
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            • #51
              DD over lofton.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                The argument for Hutson is a bit like the argument of why Babe Ruth was a superior baseball player to either Hank Aaron or Willie Mays when you are comparing players across eras. The margin between Hutson and his contemporaries is far larger than the gap between any of the more recent Packers receivers, just as Ruth was so far ahead of nearly all of his contemporaries. That's a sign that you are a game changing player, and I think it fits for Ruth and Hutson.

                Incidentally, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has an online poll on this topic. 3,462 votes are in, and here are the results:

                Don Hutson 35%
                Sterling Sharpe 25%
                Donald Driver 23%
                James Lofton 13%
                Boyd Dowler 2%
                "Someone else": 2%


                That looks about right, though I would have Lofton quite a bit higher. I wonder who the "someone else" voters had in mind: Carroll Dale? Gary Knafelc? Antonio Freeman?
                From a popularity standpoint, I would guess that Driver gains lots of votes and Lofton loses a lot of votes.

                Someone else...Kitrick Taylor?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by sharpe1027
                  Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                  The argument for Hutson is a bit like the argument of why Babe Ruth was a superior baseball player to either Hank Aaron or Willie Mays when you are comparing players across eras. The margin between Hutson and his contemporaries is far larger than the gap between any of the more recent Packers receivers, just as Ruth was so far ahead of nearly all of his contemporaries. That's a sign that you are a game changing player, and I think it fits for Ruth and Hutson.

                  Incidentally, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has an online poll on this topic. 3,462 votes are in, and here are the results:

                  Don Hutson 35%
                  Sterling Sharpe 25%
                  Donald Driver 23%
                  James Lofton 13%
                  Boyd Dowler 2%
                  "Someone else": 2%


                  That looks about right, though I would have Lofton quite a bit higher. I wonder who the "someone else" voters had in mind: Carroll Dale? Gary Knafelc? Antonio Freeman?
                  From a popularity standpoint, I would guess that Driver gains lots of votes and Lofton loses a lot of votes.

                  Someone else...Kitrick Taylor?
                  I would've put Lofton at #2 behind Hutson and Sharpe at #3.

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                  • #54
                    Bretsky is not old enough to see Hutson play

                    But Sharpe is hands down the best WR Bretsky has witnessed
                    After that I'd definitely say James Lofton is the next best
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #55
                      Where is Ruvell Martin
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        Where is Ruvell Martin
                        Yeah, doesnt team chemistry count for anything anymore?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                          Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                          I have a hard time believing there are a dozen guys this year you would take over Driver.

                          Lets see, maybe Moss... and who? Driver has been studly this season. Has yet another probowl trip ont he radar.
                          Larry Fitzgerald
                          Q
                          Reggie Wayne
                          Brandon Marshall
                          Dwayne Bowe
                          Greg Jennings
                          Andre Johnson
                          Steve Smith
                          Lee Evans
                          Roddy white
                          Wes Welker
                          Santonio Holmes
                          Hines Ward
                          Housh
                          Ocho Cinco
                          Marques Colston
                          Desean Jackson
                          Calvin Johnson

                          About 5-10 more i could list that are perhaps debatable. I listed 18 right off the top of my head.
                          Normally I would never agree with a Ty post, but glad I didn't have to make a list. That suffices and agree there's even more WR's I would take over DD in 2009 (not on age but on game ability).

                          Despite it all, he's a nice guy and a good player, but not even close to being a dominate WR. Consistent guy you can count on...but 2nd fiddle with a better WR and worthless in the redzone for TD's.

                          I agree with Bretsky. Sharpe was the most dominate WR by far I've EVER seen. I never saw Hutson...but I'm sure he was well ahead his time, but doubt he could hold a candle to the stars at WR today with his sleight frame/speed with today's standards. He'd be Wes Welker.
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