What are the Packers' Needs?

[red]

so thats where we're at now?

its no longer, wait till next year

we're now at, wait until the year after next

[Noodle]

so thats where we're at now?

its no longer, wait till next year

we're now at, wait until the year after next

Not a bad strategy if you're a GM, as it ensures continued employment for an even longer horizon.

That TT is one savy bugger.

[Waldo]

#1a - RB
#1b - OT (depends on how this season plays out, if Lang isn't a long term answer at LT, than a LT, if both Lang and Barbre work out, a swing guy with developmental upside (late 3 - 4th), if there are still questions but Lang and Barbre are workable at LT and RT, then a higher swing T (like DC was on draft day)).

#3 - CB
#4 - OLB
#5 - S

#6 - DE

[red]

i've got an answer

what do the packers need

Marcus McNeil, he'll be a free agent after this season, and the chargers have a lot of guys they have to resign. he might make it to the open market

he would be a dream come true

[pbmax]

#1a - RB
#1b - OT (depends on how this season plays out, if Lang isn't a long term answer at LT, than a LT, if both Lang and Barbre work out, a swing guy with developmental upside (late 3 - 4th), if there are still questions but Lang and Barbre are workable at LT and RT, then a higher swing T (like DC was on draft day)).

#3 - CB
#4 - OLB
#5 - S

#6 - DE

I think between Lang and Barbre we might find a RT. Its very early, but Barbre has settled down and Lang stepped in reasonably well at LT but I think physically he is a better match for RT. I doubt we have a Left Tackle.

[MadScientist]

#1 need is an OL coach who can coach. It doesn't matter who draft as RB or LT, as long as Campen is coaching, the OL won't be any good and the RB will have no where to run.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I'd like to see what comes of the young tackles on the roster.

My biggest frustration is discipline. The penalties are hurting. I understand letting some aggressive ones go, but its the lazy ones that kill me.

I believe Wahle was a 2nd round or later pick, not a 1st.

I think a lot of the LB's will come from within. CM is going to be big time. Unfortunate we'll never get the value out of Hawk. Barnett showed some flashes too.

I'm really liking the play of Jolly too. Big man with a motor.

[pbmax]

I'd like to see what comes of the young tackles on the roster.

My biggest frustration is discipline. The penalties are hurting. I understand letting some aggressive ones go, but its the lazy ones that kill me.

I believe Wahle was a 2nd round or later pick, not a 1st.

I think a lot of the LB's will come from within. CM is going to be big time. Unfortunate we'll never get the value out of Hawk. Barnett showed some flashes too.

I'm really liking the play of Jolly too. Big man with a motor.

Right. Wahle was second round in the supplemental draft. I am having trouble reading charts this week.

[Waldo]

#1a - RB
#1b - OT (depends on how this season plays out, if Lang isn't a long term answer at LT, than a LT, if both Lang and Barbre work out, a swing guy with developmental upside (late 3 - 4th), if there are still questions but Lang and Barbre are workable at LT and RT, then a higher swing T (like DC was on draft day)).

#3 - CB
#4 - OLB
#5 - S

#6 - DE

I think between Lang and Barbre we might find a RT. Its very early, but Barbre has settled down and Lang stepped in reasonably well at LT but I think physically he is a better match for RT. I doubt we have a Left Tackle.

You never know. Lang's biggest weakness is his short arms. Nobody has identified another good reason. He has LT feet. He is strong enough. He is athletic enough. He is big enough. He has it upstairs.

There are 3 LT's that I know of with arms no longer than Lang's. Jeff Backus, Jordan Gross, and Matt Light.

It is much more a given, if he had 36" arms nobody would doubt that he is our LT of the future. At 32", it could work, it has worked before, even at a PB level. Colledge's arms are no longer than Lang's.

Short armed guys need two things to really make up for it. Athleticism and quick feet, they have to be able to move to make up for the lack of extra length; and strength and balance, when a long armed DE delivers a punch to their pads that they can't counter due to a length advantage, they have to be stout enough to take the punch and have the balance to not get thrown out of position by it.

I think too much emphasis is put on arm length. Lang has everything else that you would look for in a LT, and the qualities that can make up for a lack of length.

[Fritz]

Look, if arm length is the drawback, can't they fix that? There must be some plastic surgeon out there who can add a few inches. My former father in law had his penis lengthened; surely the same can be done with a guy's arms?

As for other needs, having watched Grant look like he's running in mud and catching with mittens, it seems to me that that has become the #1 need.

Second would be an offensive tackle, whether lang and barbre work out or not. These guys take years to develop and who knows what injuries could occur - not that I'm jinxing cuz I'm not.

To me, third would be safety. Underwood and Lee are understudies at the corners; we have no one of that potential at safety behind Bigby and Collins.

Then defensive end. Never enough of dem guys.

[red]

I'd like to see what comes of the young tackles on the roster.

My biggest frustration is discipline. The penalties are hurting. I understand letting some aggressive ones go, but its the lazy ones that kill me.

I believe Wahle was a 2nd round or later pick, not a 1st.

I think a lot of the LB's will come from within. CM is going to be big time. Unfortunate we'll never get the value out of Hawk. Barnett showed some flashes too.

I'm really liking the play of Jolly too. Big man with a motor.

Right. Wahle was second round in the supplemental draft. I am having trouble reading charts this week.

maybe its time we take you out behind the old wood shed

[denverYooper]

#1a - RB
#1b - OT (depends on how this season plays out, if Lang isn't a long term answer at LT, than a LT, if both Lang and Barbre work out, a swing guy with developmental upside (late 3 - 4th), if there are still questions but Lang and Barbre are workable at LT and RT, then a higher swing T (like DC was on draft day)).

#3 - CB
#4 - OLB
#5 - S

#6 - DE

I think between Lang and Barbre we might find a RT. Its very early, but Barbre has settled down and Lang stepped in reasonably well at LT but I think physically he is a better match for RT. I doubt we have a Left Tackle.

You never know. Lang's biggest weakness is his short arms. Nobody has identified another good reason. He has LT feet. He is strong enough. He is athletic enough. He is big enough. He has it upstairs.

There are 3 LT's that I know of with arms no longer than Lang's. Jeff Backus, Jordan Gross, and Matt Light.

It is much more a given, if he had 36" arms nobody would doubt that he is our LT of the future. At 32", it could work, it has worked before, even at a PB level. Colledge's arms are no longer than Lang's.

Short armed guys need two things to really make up for it. Athleticism and quick feet, they have to be able to move to make up for the lack of extra length; and strength and balance, when a long armed DE delivers a punch to their pads that they can't counter due to a length advantage, they have to be stout enough to take the punch and have the balance to not get thrown out of position by it.

I think too much emphasis is put on arm length. Lang has everything else that you would look for in a LT, and the qualities that can make up for a lack of length.

I think he's got the drive and the smarts to potentially make it work.

He seems to really want it every time he's called on. When he was called into the Minny game, he sprinted out there. He battled Allen, who tricked him a few times. But Lang got some shots in and gave him hell, too. IIRC, He had Allen hogtied on the Nelson touchdown. A back came over to help but from what I saw, Lang had him handled pretty well.

He finishes plays well. I don't see him quit blocking. He just about drove his guy out of Lambeau on Grant's 22 yard run. And he made the tackle on the Rodgers INT vs. the Lions.

Add to that the fact that he's getting public coach love for his work ethic and that he comes across as very sure of himself and he's officially become interesting as a possible LT.

Will he be? I don't know. Maybe they draft their future LT and he battles it out for RT next year. I put his quote in my sig because he's something to be excited about on the line. I think at the least he'll be a hell of a player for us.

[retailguy]

Redskins signed Levi Jones today.