Chew on this Hawk Lovers!

[rbaloha1]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/65380942.html

[rbaloha1]

Hey Waldo what does your "film study" show? Please share with the rest of us idiots including Coach Moss.

[Lurker64]

Hawk doesn't play in Nickel. When you play basically the entire game in nickel, Hawk doesn't play much. That's not an indictment of the player, it's just a weird accident of situational packages.

We played all but nine snaps last week in either a nickel or dime package, including quite a few snaps in a 3-2-6. Of course your best run stopping LB isn't going to play in those situations.

You're not going to play all but 9 snaps in a game in nickel against a decent team, it was just a weird accident of playing a very bad team who was playing from behind for essentially the entire game.

Hawk is a freakishly reliable player, you want him on the field for every single snap in the base defense. In subpackages, you want specialists, but there's no ILB I want on the field more than Hawk in the base.

[Partial]

Completely disagree Lurker. They're going to play that much nickel because it puts their best players on the field.

If Hawk was playing well, they'd find a way to play him. Winstan Moss basically said he is not playing as good as Chillar and Barnett.

[b bulldog]

Partial, great post, agree 100%

[sheepshead]

Are there really "Hawk Lovers"...maybe just guys that think he's not a total bust?

[SkinBasket]

Some of you buttlickers need to remember what it was like to have Paris Lenon, Fred Strickland, or Bernardo Harris on the field before you go calling guys talentless or busts.

[Deputy Nutz]

Completely disagree Lurker. They're going to play that much nickel because it puts their best players on the field.

If Hawk was playing well, they'd find a way to play him. Winstan Moss basically said he is not playing as good as Chillar and Barnett.

You are the king of secondary sources. I guess you have to be when you don't understand what you are watching..

[Bretsky]

Hey Waldo what does your "film study" show? Please share with the rest of us idiots including Coach Moss.

Goes without saying that it's not cool to call other posters out

Barry Sanders

[Bretsky]

Are there really "Hawk Lovers"...maybe just guys that think he's not a total bust?

VERY valid post
I don't think there are any Hawk Lovers left
I think we're all disappointed

At minimum the coaches choose to have Barnett and Chillar on the field over Hawk in these packages. The article also points out that Barnett is making plays outside of his assignments where Hawk perhaps has not. I think Hawk use to play in the Nickel.

Good post by Skin in that all of these guys are better than some of the yahoos we've had in the past.

[SkinBasket]

Hey Waldo what does your "film study" show? Please share with the rest of us idiots including Coach Moss.

Goes without saying that it's not cool to call other posters out

Barry Sanders

It's especially not cool when you read articles by writers who are widely considered far less talented in their craft than any of the players on the Packer roster are at theirs, and you put that up against someone who breaks down games properly and comes to their own conclusions. I'm sure for how much thought Waldo's put into his research, he's big enough to accept that some people will be haters for the sake of being haters though.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll admit, I'm a Hawk lover. I think he's not being fully used to his full capabilities. It's tough to get better at something if you're not being given the opportunity to do that task. The fewer plays you are in, the more exaggerated any poor performance gets.

I don't blame him for being pissed off. I just hope he starts taking it out on the field and blows somebody up and plays with a chip on his shoulder the rest of the year.

[Zool]

If Hawk was playing well, they'd find a way to play him.

Bishop

[mission]

If Hawk was playing well, they'd find a way to play him.

Bishop

Perfect.

[sharpe1027]

If Hawk was playing well, they'd find a way to play him.

Bishop

Hilarious.