Chew on this Hawk Lovers!

[The Leaper]

This is laughable.

Is Hawk playing at a level worthy of a #5 pick? Of course not.

Is Hawk a bust? Hell, no. He is a solid but unspectacular LB who is assignment sure and highly durable.

Is there an obvious pick TT missed on by taking Hawk? Again, no...Vernon Davis was nothing more than a combine warrior, and his play has thus far borne that out. IMO, Finley is a far better potential talent at the TE position...so if we take Davis, we are stuck in the same boat IMO by having a guy holding down a starting role who is unspectacular as a high draft pick. Only this time it would be at TE.

If Mario Williams was taken 2 picks after Hawk, I could see the griping. If Hawk was a bona fide bust, I could see the griping. At present...I don't see any real reason to waste this much time playing tug of war over this topic. It wasn't a home run of a draft pick...but it wasn't a strike out either.

[Lurker64]

It's also worth noting that even taking Hawk out of the equation entirely, the 2006 draft was a very successful one since we got three starters (Colledge, Spitz, and a superstar in the making in Jennings) out if it as well as two solid backup/role players (Jolly, Blackmon).

When you look at a draft where you got 6 guys who either start or are important role players, including at least one potential superstar, four years after the fact, that's a successful draft regardless of whether or not you didn't hit on every pick as well as you could have.

[Partial]

Hawk played a very good game in response to his 9 snap performance last week. He was all over in the running game but it also seems like they ran right at him.

Clay Matthews is going to be a superstar.

[MadtownPacker]

Youre right for once. Matthews is going to be the next NFCN great White LB hope. The former is dead (urleaker) so time for a new one to be crowned. Figured he would be good when I heard his uncle is Bruce Matthews.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Youre right for once. Matthews is going to be the next NFCN great White LB hope. The former is dead (urleaker) so time for a new one to be crowned. Figured he would be good when I heard his uncle is Bruce Matthews.

Being the son of a 19 year vet, 4 time pro bowler wasn't enough. It took being Bruce Matthews nephew to figure it out?

[Fritz]

Looks like most who replied to my question of who you'd take wanted Davis.

What I don't understand is that several of those who wanted Davis are still making excuses for him and still saying he's got "upside." If anyone defended Hawk by saying that, they'd be laughed off the board. This is year four, and if you're a tight end, that's a long time.

I imagine that there are posters out if SF saying "Y'know, if Davis had been a second or third round pick that'd be okay, but for a guy who's #6 overall, he's a bust..."

I'd rather have Hawk. Now, Ngata, that's a guy the team missed out on. But I didn't advocate for him at the time, knowing little. But some folks here did - and they'd have been correct.

[SkinBasket]

haha really?

Davis didn't cry over the Hawk pick, he was crying because he made his dream of playing in the NFL come true. I clearly remember him saying to his mom "I made it".

Nah, Davis made it well known that he was very happy not to be going to Green Bay.

I realize that but thats not the reason why he was crying. Also can you really blame him? If you were not a Green Bay fan why would you want to play for the Packers over a warm weather city?

What does it matter? We got a player in Finley who has shown just as many flashes of potential, came a lot cheaper, and isn't a total cocksucker.

[denverYooper]

haha really?

Davis didn't cry over the Hawk pick, he was crying because he made his dream of playing in the NFL come true. I clearly remember him saying to his mom "I made it".

Nah, Davis made it well known that he was very happy not to be going to Green Bay.

I realize that but thats not the reason why he was crying. Also can you really blame him? If you were not a Green Bay fan why would you want to play for the Packers over a warm weather city?

Tradition, great fans, best environment to be a FOOTBALL player

I think I'd be happy with the millions they were going to pay me. I definitely wouldn't let it be public knowledge that I didn't want to play in Green Bay. Davis is a grade A jerk.

He is a jerk because he didn't want GB to select him? Like I said Charles Woodson even said early in his career that he would never play in GB. Davis never said that he would not have played for the Packers if they did in fact select him. Eli Manning on the other hand turned down the warm weather city and refused to play for the Chargers, would you consider him a grade A jerk?

Yes.

Well, that was easy.

[MichiganPackerFan]

If Hawk is labeled as a bust, what is Davis to be labeled then? A uber-bust? He's been Donald Lee except with a much bigger cap number.

Well its not like Davis has had at QB to throw him the ball.

Didn't he have a former first-overall (bust) pick tossing it to him?

[MichiganPackerFan]

As far as Hawk goes, sometimes it's hard for me to follow what his role is and when he's doing his job. It looks like he's struggled in coverage. However, he's not a flashy player, so when he DOES make big plays, it's a trot back to the huddle rather than a big samurai celebration. Not that either is wrong, but it does seem the failures are more weighted than the triumphs. Similar to an offensive linemen (but not as extreme): his name is only called when he screws up. For a #5 pick, I think we needed a playmaker, but he does seem to be reliable and consistent. I also do not think he's reached the top of his upside yet either.

[Brandon494]

You can defend Hawk all you want, Davis is the better player. Now I'm not saying Davis has proven to be worth that #6 pick yet, but he has shown more pontenial than Hawk. I like Hawk and he is servicable but I would rather have Davis. Also love how some of you call him a asshole because a 21 year old southern boy didn't want to play in Green Bay.

[PackerTimer]

You can defend Hawk all you want, Davis is the better player. Now I'm not saying Davis has proven to be worth that #6 pick yet, but he has shown more pontenial than Hawk. I like Hawk and he is servicable but I would rather have Davis. Also love how some of you call him a asshole because a 21 year old southern boy didn't want to play in Green Bay.

He's a jerk because he essentially told Green Bay not to draft him. Same reason Eli Manning is a jerk for doing it to San Diego. Just show up and play for the team that drafts you. That's how it works.

[Brandon494]

You can defend Hawk all you want, Davis is the better player. Now I'm not saying Davis has proven to be worth that #6 pick yet, but he has shown more pontenial than Hawk. I like Hawk and he is servicable but I would rather have Davis. Also love how some of you call him a asshole because a 21 year old southern boy didn't want to play in Green Bay.

He's a jerk because he essentially told Green Bay not to draft him. Same reason Eli Manning is a jerk for doing it to San Diego. Just show up and play for the team that drafts you. That's how it works.

He never told GB not to draft him, he just said he was happy they didn't select him.

[pbmax]

The number six pick Davis had 9 total touchdowns in his first three years and never averaged more than 36 yards per game. How you can call this "better player" than Hawk is questionable.

This year he is off to a better start, but the QB who had been ignoring him for 3 years is back, so I'd say the jury is out. And with Hawk its quite simple. We played A LOT more base against the Browns than the Lions. So he had many more opportunities. He also made a couple of nice plays off blocks.

[sharpe1027]

Also love how some of you call him a asshole because a 21 year old southern boy didn't want to play in Green Bay.

Are you defending his actions? Maybe they should do away with the draft and just recruit like in college.

Also, why the huge man-love for Davis? Donald Lee has been just as effective over the past few years. That's right, Donald Lee has similar numbers. I know there's going to be all sorts of excuses ect..., but that just sounds like the excuses that are made for Hawk....