Farve: 12 TDs / 3 INTs - How to beat him on Sunday?

[Scott Campbell]

In the spirit of Halloween, Al Harris could come dressed as Corey Webster.

[mngolf19]

you have to be able to get presure with the front 4. I know some experts like Leroy Butler believe that you have to blitz Favre into mistakes, but if you bring blitzes he knows where the single coverage is going to be.

Does converting to a completely new defensive scheme limit this? He may have the savy vet and know certain players tendencies, but he doesn't know this scheme any more than film study.

It is not like this defense was created yesterday. It has been around for 35 years. Sure Favre hasn't had the years of practice against it, but he has been around the block a few times with the 3-4.

Also I don't care what defense you play. If you can't get pressure on the quarterback, and you can't cover receivers then it doesn't matter. The Packers did neither 3 games ago.

Totally agree with you on the pressure. And I think #4 is savy and knows the game. I just don't think he has the familiarity with the Packers Defense that a lot of the talking heads have claimed (not yourself btw!)

MPF, I think half the teams in the league use 3-4 now. At least 3 of the Vikes opponents have. I would think Favre is not only experienced with it but with most of the Pack players as well. The importance of Pack O scoring first and fast is going to drive the outcome, short of turnovers. Again my opinion.

[MichiganPackerFan]

MPF, I think half the teams in the league use 3-4 now. At least 3 of the Vikes opponents have. I would think Favre is not only experienced with it but with most of the Pack players as well. The importance of Pack O scoring first and fast is going to drive the outcome, short of turnovers. Again my opinion.

Fair enough. My sole position is that i've been listening to a lot of commentators say that because he played for GB for 16 years, he knows their defense inside and out and should be able to shred it.

My thoughts are, he knows little about this GB defense because he was on the team. What he does know is sourced from two decades of experience in the league, playing against all different types of defenses. He's also faced GB once this year already. Any advantage he has against GB AND due to his time there is limited to his knowledge of specific players' tendencies.

[Brandon494]

Run the ball and limit turnovers. Our O-line was crap that game but we pretty much gave them that game with turnovers. On what looked to be scoring drivers we turned the ball over with a fumble and INT by AR which they turned into 14 points.

[Freak Out]

The OFFENSE is going to win the game this time around. AP is going to get yards and the Vikes will score....but not more than the Packers are going to.
Winfield's out and that is going to help a bunch.

Limited offensive mistakes and keeping Allen in check are the most important factors in this game.

[rbaloha1]

1. Disguise blitzes better.

2. Rush Kampman 90 per cent of the time.

3. Roll coverage toward Harris and Williams since BF picked on both of them during the last encounter.

[Zool]

I've only watched a couple Viking games so far this year but it seems like this week they were specifically trying to go downfield more than usual. The first few week were way more screens and shallow crossing routes than deep outs and go routes.

If you can slow up AP, take away the screens you can beat them with solid safety play. Can we get that this week?

I think the change in passes is due to chemistry and comfort of Favre and his receivers. So far I think the Browns are the only team to play the Vikes straight up. Everyone else has gone "stop the run and make Favre beat us". I don't know that scheme on D is going to make a difference. It really will come down to scoring early and often (tds not fgs) so your D can play more aggressive. Vikes are more talented(in my opinion) so you have to try and force it issue in your favor instead of playing straight.

It comes down to LB and S play. If the LB's can keep the short stuff in check and not let the 3 yard passes become 15 yard gains, keep AP in check like last game, I like the Packer DB's against the Vikings WR's assuming the safeties bother to show up.

[Maxie the Taxi]

1. Hit him hard. Knock him down.

2. Play some nickle. Blitz DB's

3. Force him into 3rd and long.

[The Shadow]

The time-tested way savvy coordinators have beaten him for years : show him pressure coming from unexpected angles occasionally, but mostly drop back & wait for the brainfreeze throws/poor decisions.

[Kiwon]

Well, I wonder about what role the crowd can play....some major psychological warfare, you know.

Farve is always his own worst enemy. He is as emotional as all get out and that could be used against him in what REALLY might be his last game at Lambeau.

How about the Packers start the game with a highlight video tribute? Hall of Fame stuff, testimonies from other Packer greats.

Then put in a special introduction of him as a Packer legend, introduce his wife, introduce his mother, let the crowd give him a standing ovation and cheer and shout "We love you, Brett!"

Encourage folks to come in their Packer #4 jerseys. Make it an unofficial "Brett Farve" day.

I could almost guarantee that his first several passes would be off the mark...

[Maxie the Taxi]

How about a film tribute of all his completions to Dallas Cowboys DB's.

That might cause his first few throws to be off the mark too.

[MJZiggy]

How about a film tribute of all his completions to Dallas Cowboys DB's.

That might cause his first few throws to be off the mark too.

And the crowd may enjoy it more...

[Kiwon]

How about a film tribute of all his completions to Dallas Cowboys DB's.

That might cause his first few throws to be off the mark too.

And the crowd may enjoy it more...

You guys need to think more outside the box...

Some emotional jujitsu would do the trick...

[Rastak]

The time-tested way savvy coordinators have beaten him for years : show him pressure coming from unexpected angles occasionally, but mostly drop back & wait for the brainfreeze throws/poor decisions.

What went wrong in game 1 of the series in your opinion Lamont?

[Guiness]

The time-tested way savvy coordinators have beaten him for years : show him pressure coming from unexpected angles occasionally, but mostly drop back & wait for the brainfreeze throws/poor decisions.

What went wrong in game 1 of the series in your opinion Lamont?

Well, I'm not Lamont but...

I think most would agree that our very basic strategy in the first game was off-base. We didn't expect Favre to be terribly effective, and concentrated on stopping AP, daring the team to ride Favre to the win.

The result - Peterson gets 50ish yards and just over 2ypc. Favre carves us up like a christmas turkey. I don't think we ever had much of a plan for neutralizing Favre.