Bad Teams

[cap360]

Is it just me or does it seem like there are just a whole bunch of really bad football teams this year i count atleast 12 that pretty much suck! Wonder whats up with that?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: Bad Teams

Is it just me or does it seem like there are just a whole bunch of really bad football teams this year i count atleast 12 that pretty much suck! Wonder whats up with that?

No, it ain't you. Lots of bad teams and VERY predictable outcomes. Vegas is getting hammered. They are gonna be raising the lines on TB and Oak....if it was 13, gonna be 17-18.

It has been so bad, that Vegas is openly considering taking games off the line next year.

[KYPack]

Re: Bad Teams

Is it just me or does it seem like there are just a whole bunch of really bad football teams this year i count atleast 12 that pretty much suck! Wonder whats up with that?

No, it ain't you. Lots of bad teams and VERY predictable outcomes. Vegas is getting hammered. They are gonna be raising the lines on TB and Oak....if it was 13, gonna be 17-18.

It has been so bad, that Vegas is openly considering taking games off the line next year.

I heard a report on this yesterday. There are some consistent dogs taking the gas pipe every week, coupled with some sure favorites that are always covering.

This last Sunday was thought by some of observers to be the worst week in Vegas history. You will definitely see some dogs come off the board and some humungous spreads until this straightens out.

[pbmax]

So maybe its Vegas and not Pete Rozelle that feel in love with parity.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Look at the suicide pools. More people are in those for longer so far this year.

[Guiness]

Agreed on that CH Craig, as evidenced by my continual survival!!!

[MadScientist]

Look at the suicide pools. More people are in those for longer so far this year.

Those pools should also be changed to not allow a person to pick a team to lose more than once. Usually you only get one or two Toilet Bowls a year, but now its every week. (Det vs StL anyone?)

[Smidgeon]

All the bad teams make me ask: is this a one or two year anomoly (for whatever reason: parity striking all at once instead of in spurts across all teams, rebuilding, economic factors that preclude an owner from dishing out money, a eroding of talent, etc), or is parity dead now that teams are successful in spending beneath the salary cap? Does the cap need to be reduced to increase parity or will certain teams always be towards the top due to ownership emphasizing quality and winning (NE, GB, PIT) over spending/not spending money or sticking to outdated philosophies (DET, WAS, TB, OAK)?

[MadScientist]

All the bad teams make me ask: is this a one or two year anomoly (for whatever reason: parity striking all at once instead of in spurts across all teams, rebuilding, economic factors that preclude an owner from dishing out money, a eroding of talent, etc), or is parity dead now that teams are successful in spending beneath the salary cap? Does the cap need to be reduced to increase parity or will certain teams always be towards the top due to ownership emphasizing quality and winning (NE, GB, PIT) over spending/not spending money or sticking to outdated philosophies (DET, WAS, TB, OAK)?

I'd say it is short term because the causes are different in many cases.

Detroit - full rebuild after a disastrous GM. Other than the GB game (missing too many players), they've improved quite a bit. Next year they won't command the huge lines.

Washington / Oakland - Meddling ownership. They will stay bad for a while.

Tenn / Carolina - QB's falling off a cliff.

KC - full rebuild, but they supposedly have a QB, so they may turn around in a year or so.

Buff / TB - Coaching problems (fired OC just before the season started).

Cleavland - Remaking the team, but serious regression from both QB's.


It's the NFL, so who knows what will happen next year. Did anyone anywhere really predict that Denver would be 6-0?

[hoosier]

All the bad teams make me ask: is this a one or two year anomoly (for whatever reason: parity striking all at once instead of in spurts across all teams, rebuilding, economic factors that preclude an owner from dishing out money, a eroding of talent, etc), or is parity dead now that teams are successful in spending beneath the salary cap? Does the cap need to be reduced to increase parity or will certain teams always be towards the top due to ownership emphasizing quality and winning (NE, GB, PIT) over spending/not spending money or sticking to outdated philosophies (DET, WAS, TB, OAK)?

I'd say it is short term because the causes are different in many cases.

Detroit - full rebuild after a disastrous GM. Other than the GB game (missing too many players), they've improved quite a bit. Next year they won't command the huge lines.

Washington / Oakland - Meddling ownership. They will stay bad for a while.

Tenn / Carolina - QB's falling off a cliff.

KC - full rebuild, but they supposedly have a QB, so they may turn around in a year or so.

Buff / TB - Coaching problems (fired OC just before the season started).

Cleavland - Remaking the team, but serious regression from both QB's.


It's the NFL, so who knows what will happen next year. Did anyone anywhere really predict that Denver would be 6-0?

When the Cutler and Marshall news was hitting the fan back in August I fully expected that Denver would have a 6 and a 0 in their record at this point, but I have to admit that I had those two numbers the other way around.

Good point about "next year." In fact, the second half of the season could even bring new hope for a few of the crappy teams this year.

[red]

i think this might be a sign of things to come

some teams just aren't gonna spend all their cap room anymore. and when the cba expires and the cap floor disappears it might get even worse.

floria had a piece about this topic this week

last year detroit was the first team ever to go 0-16, this year theres a very strong chance that 2 teams will do it

[Cheesehead Craig]

Look at the suicide pools. More people are in those for longer so far this year.

Those pools should also be changed to not allow a person to pick a team to lose more than once. Usually you only get one or two Toilet Bowls a year, but now its every week. (Det vs StL anyone?)

I should have said survival pools as well where you can't pick the same team twice.

[Maxie the Taxi]

IMO it boils down to QB.

Good teams IN GENERAL have top rated QB's; Bad teams have low rated QB's.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2009/seasontype/2

A great QB can atone for a lot of sins. No matter how good the rest of the team, a bad QB is hard to overcome.

Case in point: anybody believe Minnesota would be where they are now if Favre hadn't played with them?

[gbgary]

All the bad teams make me ask: is this a one or two year anomoly (for whatever reason: parity striking all at once instead of in spurts across all teams, rebuilding, economic factors that preclude an owner from dishing out money, a eroding of talent, etc), or is parity dead now that teams are successful in spending beneath the salary cap? Does the cap need to be reduced to increase parity or will certain teams always be towards the top due to ownership emphasizing quality and winning (NE, GB, PIT) over spending/not spending money or sticking to outdated philosophies (DET, WAS, TB, OAK)?

I'd say it is short term because the causes are different in many cases.

Detroit - full rebuild after a disastrous GM. Other than the GB game (missing too many players), they've improved quite a bit. Next year they won't command the huge lines.

Washington / Oakland - Meddling ownership. They will stay bad for a while.

Tenn / Carolina - QB's falling off a cliff.

KC - full rebuild, but they supposedly have a QB, so they may turn around in a year or so.

Buff / TB - Coaching problems (fired OC just before the season started).

Cleveland - Remaking the team, but serious regression from both QB's.


It's the NFL, so who knows what will happen next year. Did anyone anywhere really predict that Denver would be 6-0?

this!

[Brandon494]

Yet some fans have the nerve to claim TT is the worst GM in the league

Not saying that he is perfect but he gets a lot of undeserved blame.