V.Y. to start versus Jags!

[Partial]

I don't think he's playing like an MVP. Rodgers is playing better right now but also has way better receiving weapons. Young isn't ever going to put up gaudy stats but he will win and make plays when the game is on the line, which is ultimately what you want from your extension-of-coach.

[pbmax]

I don't think he's playing like an MVP. Rodgers is playing better right now but also has way better receiving weapons. Young isn't ever going to put up gaudy stats but he will win and make plays when the game is on the line, which is ultimately what you want from your extension-of-coach.

Because he is a threat running and passing, teams cannot play a typical defense against him. Very much like Randall Cunningham. And because his skill set appears in the NFL once a generation (I think the jury is still out on Vick's comeback) it takes extra time to figure him and the offense out. But it will happen and if he sticks around for a couple of years, then we'll have an answer.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I don't think he's playing like an MVP. Rodgers is playing better right now but also has way better receiving weapons. Young isn't ever going to put up gaudy stats but he will win and make plays when the game is on the line, which is ultimately what you want from your extension-of-coach.

Because he is a threat running and passing, teams cannot play a typical defense against him. Very much like Randall Cunningham. And because his skill set appears in the NFL once a generation (I think the jury is still out on Vick's comeback) it takes extra time to figure him and the offense out. But it will happen and if he sticks around for a couple of years, then we'll have an answer.

As much as Ty has ripped on VY, his running ability had virtually no impact in the Cards game. Ty watched the entire game, benefit of living in AZ, and the gameplan was clearly to keep VY in the pocket..which they did. VY beat them in the pocket.

VY looked good, but the game was more about Warner not being in the game. The cards scored 13 points on offense..that ain't gonna happen most games with Warner.

VY gets credit where it is due..the game winning drive was impressive (though, his low delivery point is gonna be problematic forever)...but, the game shoulda never been close.

[channtheman]

I don't think he's playing like an MVP. Rodgers is playing better right now but also has way better receiving weapons. Young isn't ever going to put up gaudy stats but he will win and make plays when the game is on the line, which is ultimately what you want from your extension-of-coach.

Because he is a threat running and passing, teams cannot play a typical defense against him. Very much like Randall Cunningham. And because his skill set appears in the NFL once a generation (I think the jury is still out on Vick's comeback) it takes extra time to figure him and the offense out. But it will happen and if he sticks around for a couple of years, then we'll have an answer.

As much as Ty has ripped on VY, his running ability had virtually no impact in the Cards game. Ty watched the entire game, benefit of living in AZ, and the gameplan was clearly to keep VY in the pocket..which they did. VY beat them in the pocket.

VY looked good, but the game was more about Warner not being in the game. The cards scored 13 points on offense..that ain't gonna happen most games with Warner.

VY gets credit where it is due..the game winning drive was impressive (though, his low delivery point is gonna be problematic forever)...but, the game shoulda never been close.

Yeah pretty much the bolded points. I said this a few pages back. Warner plays, games not even close and Partial doesn't get to bump this thread.

[MOBB DEEP]

Can VY lead the Titans to a W against Indy, giving them their 1st loss?

If so, comeback player of the year???

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Can VY lead the Titans to a W against Indy, giving them their 1st loss?

If so, comeback player of the year???

Over Lord Favre?

[Sparkey]

short answer ....... NO, he can not.

[channtheman]

short answer ....... NO, he can not.

Shortest answer: no.

[SkinBasket]

I was reading a story about our dearly departed Mr. Henry, when I thought about Steve Mcnair, which naturally led me to remember Vince Young. I was just wondering where this thread had gone since the Vince led Titans lost to the Colts and Collins came into the game last week and led his team to 47 points and a win.

Just wondering... Do the remaining Young supporters still believe Vince was behind the resurgence of the Titans or was the Rams game evidence enough that their wins recently have been a team effort? If anyone still believes Young was the catalyst behind the wins or is some special talent, then what does that make Collins?

[pbmax]

I was reading a story about our dearly departed Mr. Henry, when I thought about Steve Mcnair, which naturally led me to remember Vince Young. I was just wondering where this thread had gone since the Vince led Titans lost to the Colts and Collins came into the game last week and led his team to 47 points and a win.

Just wondering... Do the remaining Young supporters still believe Vince was behind the resurgence of the Titans or was the Rams game evidence enough that their wins recently have been a team effort? If anyone still believes Young was the catalyst behind the wins or is some special talent, then what does that make Collins?

Vince Young is a game changer. Kerry Collins is a game stay-the-samer.

The 47 points were clearly due to the fear of Vince 'Game Changer' Young's return.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Young is getting his ass kicked (as is the rest of TN) vs the Chargers.

[Pugger]

Come back player of the year? I've been hearing Orton's name kicked around.

I wonder if after last night's dominating performance by SD Rivers' name will be added to the list of possible MVP candidates...?

[MOBB DEEP]

VY to probowl!

YES!

2nd one in 4 years in the tough AFC

[denverYooper]

VY to probowl!

YES!

2nd one in 4 years in the tough AFC

After Brady, BenBurger and Rivers dropped out...

[SkinBasket]

VY to probowl!

YES!

2nd one in 4 years in the tough AFC

After Brady, BenBurger and Rivers dropped out...

Less than 59% completion for 1879 yards, 10 TD, 7 INT, 8 fumbles, and 9 sacks. Might as well have sent JaMarcus Russell.