Difficult Parting Ways

[Rastak]

Moot point. Never in a million years would TT have traded him to the Vikings. That would have been worse than cutting him and having him sign there for the general Packer fan I bet.....and he never probably even remotely considered cutting him.

Well, I was suggesting a why. That doesn't mean I think he should have. I'm just offering suggestions. I agree that he wouldn't have done it, but it doesn't mean no why existed.

Sure, I see what you are saying. One could argue that had they been offered a couple 1st round picks they'd be kind of stupid not to take it. I guess that answers why he might. I guess I never saw that sort of scenario as a valid possibility.

[sharpe1027]

He wanted to leave a very young, very talented team that was took the world champion to overtime in their final game?

That makes ZERO sense. The Vikings business started up after the Pack moved on.

He retired didn't he?
He tried to un-retired at an inconvenient time and then backed out when it looked like they would welcome him back.
He was talking a lot with both his friend Bevell and for some reason also with Childress.
A bunch rumors started leaking about him unretiring, which he first denied, then shortly thereafter confirmed.
A bunch of nasty stuff about TT and the Packers was leaked to the media by "sources close to Favre".
Favre finally called the Packers and proceeded to tell them he wanted back in, but that he couldn't commit 100%.
The very next day Favre publicly asks to be released outright (shows real commitment to the team...he took the time to have one phone call).
Favre throws his "friend" Campen under the bus for no good reason.
Favre pulled similar stuff with the Jets, whom actually complied.
The most telling fact, where is he now?

I agree, it makes zero sense, but I still believe it is the most likely scenario. "Of course" I have no facts whatsoever to back me up. Call it a hunch.

Moving on.

[Kiwon]

I read the article and imagine that it is a fairly objective take on things.

The full story won't ever be known until TT, Brett, and someone in the Vikings leadership each detail what actually transpired on their ends.

Oh, that might happen in, say,.....25 years.

[Scott Campbell]

Andy was gone when this went down. He may have heard more than most people, but it's not like he was there as a first person witness as it all unraveled.

[bobblehead]

This week only I comment on him:

1) He didn't like MM and TT from the start. They refused to listen to him about who to sign/hire. I want Marriuchi, I want Moss, I don't want a QB in the first round, he won't help us win now.

2) MM demanded players show up for OTA's and work in the offseason. The team also sent a personal trainer to Mississippi prior to the '07 season to make sure he worked out. He was hard on Brett in making him study film and put in the extra time. This was well documented right from the start, not just near the end. Brett resented all of that.

3) MM was livid every time Brett threw a stupid pass in a close game....something else Brett didn't like. Constantly harped on him in practice to stop throwing late down the middle.

4) When MM and TT basically told brett they would be sending the personal trainer again before the '08 season I think Brett couldn't take anymore. He retired, but I believe he got even more bitter in the following weeks and was working towards getting to Minnesota from that point on.

When he talked to them right before the draft I am betting they said "great, we'll send the trainer down and expect you for mini's and OTAs" He stayed retired, but hatched the plan....not too long later the rumors started, the agent asked for his release with the "brett just wants to play football" talk.

TT stood firm. ARod had devoted all his offseason time getting ready, and was. TT told brett sure, come to camp, we need a veteran backup. Brett decided if he turned it into a circus/media war TT would blink and release him. We all know how it ended. Brett went to NY knowing he could leverage that into Minnesota this season...I would bet Chilly knew last year already that he would have BF this season.

One thing I disagree with waldo on. If BF had devoted to working out and Mini's and OTA's after the '07 season MM would have loved to have him back. In '07 Brett was finally playing smart football again for the first time since Holmgren left.

I think in BF's mind he believes they totally did him wrong. In MM's mind he had a player not committed to the game the way he wanted and wasn't going to blink...if he did, he wouldn't be able to get woodson, harris, driver, ect. to live up to his standards.

Personally I side with MM and TT on this one. I had wanted BF to retire for 2 years before '07....then finally I wanted him back for the first time and he retired...sort of. Brett was within his rights to maneuver his way to minny, but I'm within my rights to hope he gets knocked flat and blown out sunday.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't buy #3 about film study. From most accounts, Brett studied a lot later in his career.

[Fred's Slacks]

I don't get it. On one hand I hear the argument that he didn't like TT because he wouldn't make the moves needed to land the big time players. But on the other hand I hear the question as to why he'd want to leave a young talented team he just lead to the NFC title game? So Brett doesn't like TT because he surrounds him with young talent?

[Scott Campbell]

Brett didn't like Ted because he wouldn't be his bitch the way Sherman was.

[Rastak]

I don't get it. On one hand I hear the argument that he didn't like TT because he wouldn't make the moves needed to land the big time players. But on the other hand I hear the question as to why he'd want to leave a young talented team he just lead to the NFC title game? So Brett doesn't like TT because he surrounds him with young talent?

Yea, I hear what you are saying. He said 2007 Packers were the most talented team he ever played with...as a side note I see the 1996 Packers didn't say shit when he said that.


I don't get the conspiracy arguments.

[Partial]

Wow, some of you guys are making some hefty assumptions. I think it's a simple as ARod being a free agent after last year and they wanted to keep him long term. Simple as that.

Andy Brandt's story is probably as good as we'll get.

[Scott Campbell]

I think it's a simple as ARod being a free agent after last year and they wanted to keep him long term.

Then you'd be wrong. Again.

[Scott Campbell]

Yea, I hear what you are saying. He said 2007 Packers were the most talented team he ever played with...as a side note I see the 1996 Packers didn't say shit when he said that.

That was before the scarlet letter.

[mraynrand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWbNgIc2TVM

And in case that wasn't enough pure treacle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWbNgIc2TVM

[Pugger]

I don't get it. On one hand I hear the argument that he didn't like TT because he wouldn't make the moves needed to land the big time players. But on the other hand I hear the question as to why he'd want to leave a young talented team he just lead to the NFC title game? So Brett doesn't like TT because he surrounds him with young talent?

Yea, I hear what you are saying. He said 2007 Packers were the most talented team he ever played with...as a side note I see the 1996 Packers didn't say shit when he said that.


I don't get the conspiracy arguments.

That's because BF was talking about a Packer team and not a Viking team.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Another solid take.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20091030/PKR07/91030158/1058/PKR01/Pete-Dougherty-column--Packers--breakup-with-Favre-was-inevitable