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  • #16
    Originally posted by mr_blonde
    I concur. McCarthy is consistently out coached and it's really apparent when the Packers play teams with winning records.

    As bad as the Packers played in the first 2+ quarters of the game, they had the ball at the Viking 27; 2nd and 2; driving to take the lead .... then, Lang forgets to block Allen leading to a sack and on third and long; an incomplete pass leading to McCarthy's worst call of the day ... the 51 yard FG attempt.

    Crosby can't make a 50+ FG, especially outdoors. If the attempt was 45-47 yards then going for the FG makes sense; cut the lead to two and hold'em. But a 50+ yard attempt by a kicker who has not proven he can hit a FG consistently from that distance ... no way ... especially outdoors.

    Go for it on fourth and 8. The Packers could have converted; momentum was on their side still. If you make it great, if not, hold'em. You are still only 5 points down and at least the Vikings don't get another 8 yards up the field to begin their drive.
    Nice to see that I'm not the only one thinking this. I was screaming at the TV...WHY? WHY? Why are they kicking it...Crosby chokes in these situations! I too just wanted them to go for it. The only bad situatiion would have been a sack...which today was definately in the cards.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sactopackfan
      Paging Mike Holmgren, please pick up line 3, Ted Thompson would like to speak with you...
      That'd be nice; but he wants a Parcell's type gig running the whole football operations.
      "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sheepshead
        Go for it on fourth and 8. The Packers could have converted; momentum was on their side still. If you make it great, if not, hold'em. You are still only 5 points down and at least the Vikings don't get another 8 yards up the field to begin their drive.
        Normally this would sound like hind-site but I was thinking the exact same thing. I know he's playing percentages , but Ol' Mason has let us down too many times.
        Mason really hasn't let us down.

        How many 50+ yards in November at Lambeau do you expect to make? I would have punted and hoped the D held again on a long field.
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #19
          Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
          Originally posted by Sactopackfan
          Paging Mike Holmgren, please pick up line 3, Ted Thompson would like to speak with you...
          That'd be nice; but he wants a Parcell's type gig running the whole football operations.

          Well, the way this train is headed, it may not be a bad option. Holmgren was pretty damn good at talent evaluation.

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          • #20
            6 more sacks today. 3 more for Jared Allen. Nothing to see here....
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            • #21
              Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
              Originally posted by Sactopackfan
              Paging Mike Holmgren, please pick up line 3, Ted Thompson would like to speak with you...
              That'd be nice; but he wants a Parcell's type gig running the whole football operations.
              I'm not so sure. I think Holmgren and Thompson had a real good working relationship. Coming back to GB with a good group of young, talented players as well as a franchise QB, may be appealing to MH. We shall see ...

              Nonetheless, there are several outstanding, Super Bowl Championship Head Coaches that could be available .... (Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden .... and my personal favorite; Dungy). I would think one of them would find the Green Bay job attractive????

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mr_blonde
                Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
                Originally posted by Sactopackfan
                Paging Mike Holmgren, please pick up line 3, Ted Thompson would like to speak with you...
                That'd be nice; but he wants a Parcell's type gig running the whole football operations.
                I'm not so sure. I think Holmgren and Thompson had a real good working relationship. Coming back to GB with a good group of young, talented players as well as a franchise QB, may be appealing to MH. We shall see ...

                Nonetheless, there are several outstanding, Super Bowl Championship Head Coaches that could be available .... (Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden .... and my personal favorite; Dungy). I would think one of them would find the Green Bay job attractive????
                So let's go get a real head coach. I've wanted McCoach gone from the get go.

                I want Cowher or Dungy.
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                • #23
                  Cowher would never come to GB and Dungy I believe is done coaching football.

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                  • #24
                    Chicken Little rears his ugly head after another loss to the Vikings. Crap. We are in for a full week of listening to how McCarthy is the second coming of Forrest Greg and needs to go now. Needs to go yesterday.

                    Some things are definitely not right with the Packers just now. While the defense has been a mildly pleasant surprise in the first half (I was expecting a few more bumps in the road while adjusting to the new system), the offense has been a major disappointment. ARod is holding the ball too damn long. The offensive line still hasn't jelled. Too many dumb penalties.

                    Firing McCarthy is no guarantee that these problems will get fixed, or that other problems will not appear. And it will set the team back in a big way in terms of continuity. Given the new defense and a QB who is still struggling to put it all together, he deserves at least through 2010 before declaring that it's a bad fit.

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                    • #25
                      I don't have so much a problem with him as a coach. I think he does a decent job with his players. He's no Holmgren, but he's not atrociously bad.....but his playcalling is. It seems as though everybody can see what's going to happen with his plays, except him. He abandons the run on the account that his pathetic toss plays don't work. He refuses to call the short slant that worked so well in the past (and the Vikings). He cannot make the right call in a crucial situation. A 51 yard FG to make it a 2 point game? Seriously?

                      I never had a problem with him before this game. But, for some reason, a light just went on for me.
                      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                      • #26
                        The Jolly penalty really ticked me off. He's not getting through to these guys. There have to be consequences.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          The Jolly penalty really ticked me off. He's not getting through to these guys. There have to be consequences.
                          I don't blame McCarthy for that.....Jolly is just that damn stupid.
                          "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                            The Jolly penalty really ticked me off. He's not getting through to these guys. There have to be consequences.
                            I don't blame McCarthy for that.....Jolly is just that damn stupid.


                            Have to sit the guy, and any other fools that get the boneheaded penalties.

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                            • #29
                              Did we run one screen play all game? I recall A. Green was pretty damn solid at that in years past. It would've been nice to see MM call a few.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sactopackfan
                                Did we run one screen play all game? I recall A. Green was pretty damn solid at that in years past. It would've been nice to see MM call a few.
                                Yes Green caught a screen today and lowered the boom on an unfortunate Viking.

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