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Mike McCarthy is NOT the answer.
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No one is saying firing McCarthy is a guarantee to solve those problems, but what we do now is he is NOT the solution! I just think he needs to focus more on being a head coach and let someone start calling plays. Our offense is unbalanced and very predicted.Originally posted by hoosierChicken Little rears his ugly head after another loss to the Vikings. Crap. We are in for a full week of listening to how McCarthy is the second coming of Forrest Greg and needs to go now. Needs to go yesterday.
Some things are definitely not right with the Packers just now. While the defense has been a mildly pleasant surprise in the first half (I was expecting a few more bumps in the road while adjusting to the new system), the offense has been a major disappointment. ARod is holding the ball too damn long. The offensive line still hasn't jelled. Too many dumb penalties.
Firing McCarthy is no guarantee that these problems will get fixed, or that other problems will not appear. And it will set the team back in a big way in terms of continuity. Given the new defense and a QB who is still struggling to put it all together, he deserves at least through 2010 before declaring that it's a bad fit.
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So how do you know these things ?Originally posted by Brandon494Cowher would never come to GB and Dungy I believe is done coaching football.PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2019,
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He personally knows Bill Cowher. On top of that, Bill Cowher coached in the world class city of Pittsburgh. After coaching in such a fine city, how could you go to a dump like Green Bay?Originally posted by mmmdkSo how do you know these things ?Originally posted by Brandon494Cowher would never come to GB and Dungy I believe is done coaching football."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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I have no source, I'm not saying its a fact, it's an opinion, duh. Pandora and Facebook are turning your brains to mush ;-pOriginally posted by BallHawkSource?Originally posted by PartialI think he is saying that Cowher wants to run personnel to, and with teets around thats obviously not gonna happen.
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I don't think it boils down to merely "sitting" a player who screws up. It goes a whole lot deeper than that, and starts very early in the spring. It should be engrained in the team's culture.Originally posted by BallHawkWe don't have the luxury of sitting arguably our 2nd best player on the DL.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by BallHawkI don't blame McCarthy for that.....Jolly is just that damn stupid.Originally posted by Scott CampbellThe Jolly penalty really ticked me off. He's not getting through to these guys. There have to be consequences.
Have to sit the guy, and any other fools that get the boneheaded penalties.
McCarthy has had a remarkably cavalier attitude toward penalties, almost excusing them. (Read his press conference transcripts.) I just don't believe penalties should be tolerated or excused as "part of the game." Let penalties be part of the opponents game!
I want to see more fire from the man.
I also want him to quit saying that he's a "rush first" kind of team. That's BS. He is easily lured into a pass first and pass downfield shootout. He loves big plays and he loves trying to create them. "exposive", I think he calls them.
A good example is late in the 4th quarter. It was 3rd and 20 (and you know he's going to go for it on 4th down). What does he do? Takes two futile and low percentage shots at getting all 20 at once. Why not two tens? Why not a cross-up-the-defense run for 10.
The guy is just too damn predictable. He makes the job of the opposing defensive coordinator too damn easy.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Pittsburgh=ParisOriginally posted by BallHawkHe personally knows Bill Cowher. On top of that, Bill Cowher coached in the world class city of Pittsburgh. After coaching in such a fine city, how could you go to a dump like Green Bay?Originally posted by mmmdkSo how do you know these things ?Originally posted by Brandon494Cowher would never come to GB and Dungy I believe is done coaching football.
GB=Copenhagen
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Is it 100% opinion?Originally posted by PartialI have no source, I'm not saying its a fact, it's an opinion, duh. Pandora and Facebook are turning your brains to mush ;-pOriginally posted by BallHawkSource?Originally posted by PartialI think he is saying that Cowher wants to run personnel to, and with teets around thats obviously not gonna happen.
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The long standing rumor with Cowher is going to Carolina when Fox is done.Originally posted by PartialI have no source, I'm not saying its a fact, it's an opinion, duh. Pandora and Facebook are turning your brains to mush ;-pOriginally posted by BallHawkSource?Originally posted by PartialI think he is saying that Cowher wants to run personnel to, and with teets around thats obviously not gonna happen.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee
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Maybe all he needs to do is turn over the playcalling to someone else and concentrate on managing the tactics of the game.
(Excuse my ranting. This was a tough loss.)One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Fixed.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsPittsburgh=MinskOriginally posted by BallHawkHe personally knows Bill Cowher. On top of that, Bill Cowher coached in the world class city of Pittsburgh. After coaching in such a fine city, how could you go to a dump like Green Bay?Originally posted by mmmdkSo how do you know these things ?Originally posted by Brandon494Cowher would never come to GB and Dungy I believe is done coaching football.
GB=Grozny
Lay off Copenhagen.
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With one playoff appearance in four years; assuming this team does not make the playoffs this year (which is a very real possibility), McCarthy deserves to be fired.Originally posted by hoosierChicken Little rears his ugly head after another loss to the Vikings. Crap. We are in for a full week of listening to how McCarthy is the second coming of Forrest Greg and needs to go now. Needs to go yesterday.
Some things are definitely not right with the Packers just now. While the defense has been a mildly pleasant surprise in the first half (I was expecting a few more bumps in the road while adjusting to the new system), the offense has been a major disappointment. ARod is holding the ball too damn long. The offensive line still hasn't jelled. Too many dumb penalties.
Firing McCarthy is no guarantee that these problems will get fixed, or that other problems will not appear. And it will set the team back in a big way in terms of continuity. Given the new defense and a QB who is still struggling to put it all together, he deserves at least through 2010 before declaring that it's a bad fit.
Mike Sherman had .663 winning percentage, five straight winning seasons and three division titles his first years with the Packers ... one year later he's fired for going 4-12 with a team absolutely decimated by injuries!!!
This team is going backwards ... backwards really fast. As far as ARod "struggling to put it together", the only reason the Packers were able to get close in the game today was the play of ARod and the receivers. The OL, Defense and Special Teams sure didn't help out much ...
BTW, with nearly 2000 yards passing, 14TD passes and ONLY 2 interceptions over the first 7 games this season (with a lousy OL and non-existent running game), and still being able to lead the offensive unit to a scoring average of over 27 points a game, I wouldn't say Arod is "struggling".
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