Originally posted by Patler
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No one knows what goes on behind T.T.'s closed doors...
I think the teams direction is young players. And the back up safety or DB's have to be a factor on special teams.. Roman was not that player. IMHO. That is..
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I trust the coaches enough to think they had a pretty damn good idea that Manuel would beat out Roman--and probably about 5 other safeties. Manuel was good last year replacing Hamlin. Now, he needs to step up again.Originally posted by PartialI guess I don't see why they are so confident Manual is going to beat him out. I haven't seen Manual so I don't really know how he compares.
I guess I don't see the big shock with cutting Roman."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I for one am not shocked and really it doesn't bother me that much. I just think we were better with him than without him.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersI trust the coaches enough to think they had a pretty damn good idea that Manuel would beat out Roman--and probably about 5 other safeties. Manuel was good last year replacing Hamlin. Now, he needs to step up again.Originally posted by PartialI guess I don't see why they are so confident Manual is going to beat him out. I haven't seen Manual so I don't really know how he compares.
I guess I don't see the big shock with cutting Roman.Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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Just like they were comfortable with Freeman and Little at safety last year?Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersI trust the coaches enough to think they had a pretty damn good idea that Manuel would beat out Roman--and probably about 5 other safeties.
Manuel did not earn a starting job last year, as you point out.
I just don't trust scouting reports. I am not convinced that Manuel is better than Roman, and the coaches don't know either. I think Roman was cut for reasons beyond his abilities as a player.
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After they signed Little and Freeman last year and got a look at them all offseason, who did they cut because they were comfortable with those two? Nobody. Probably because they got a look at those two, and realized they weren't going to get it done. Apparently, they got a look at Collins, Manuel, Culver, Underwood, Boger, and Bigby this offseason--and felt Roman had little chance of making the team. Of course, other factors weight in, but if this team felt that Roman was going to vastly improve their team or even their depth, he'd still be on the team.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyJust like they were comfortable with Freeman and Little at safety last year?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I believe that as someone said: Mark Roman was cut because he didn't fit into T2's re-building plan.
This season is T2's time to really get his feet wet and test the waters.I don't think we can say the Mark Roman fit into T2's plan 2-3 year's down the road.
T2 is a compassionate person in my view.I have some criticisms of his style - yes. Yet, from what I'm seeing of him as a person he weighs dismissals carefully and makes decisions sometimes that are difficult for him.He appears to have compassion.Maybe he's a great actor? I havn't enough yet, to nail him down.
His job isn't easy. Alot of people are scrutinizing his every move. I sure am. I give him credit where I feel it's due, and otherwise I'm all over him on the Forum. I call it as I see it.
In the case of this cut. Mark Roman is better off pursuing employment on another team. He had things working against him, that made it prudent and fair to let him go.
I just don't like the timing of this cut.
Why did T2 wait, to this week to cut a man that had to be looking forward to TC, and maybe developing OUR younger safety's, or just fighting to play with Nick Collins or Manuel Marquand? Even at #3 he provided experienced depth - but he just didn't fit.
T2 is learning to be a GM, and like all of us in a new job, he won't make the perfect decision in all of OUR eyes. He is difficult to read. I don't know if he'll be successful in Green Bay or not, as he's so DAM aloof. He's very hard to read.
Mark Roman certainly provided the depth we are lacking all over, positionaly on OUR team(at safety). Many of us feel it would be better to keep Roman, but maybe T2 has something up his sleeve? Maybe it was strictly fiscally prudent? An easy cut to reduce OUR number below the cap?
I don't know, nor can I guess.
I am hoping, and maybe soon we may understands this cut more clearly in terms of an acquisition to add better balance to OUR team.
In any case, Mark Roman is better off trying to find employment elsewhere. He just didn't fit T2's re-building plan.
That SECRET plan.
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Hey Ziggy.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhy would you think he's going to the CFL? He just yesterday signed an NFL contract with the Packers. He is slated to be the #3 qb.
Please. Take your teeth out before you bite me.
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Manuel failed his physical and is not part of training camp.
Manuel failed to beat out Roman in 2 prior seasons and even after Roman was signed away in free agency the Bengals cut Manuel. Manuel, a 6th round pick, was a back up last season until the injury of the starter.
It is now up to Underwood, Boger, and Culver to sort out who is the starter.
Roman the number #34 pick overall in the 2000 draft is released with nothing obtained just like Wahle and Sharper.
Will Manuel be ready to play soon????
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He'll be starting shortly now. Roman had ZERO trade valueOriginally posted by CaliforniaCheezManuel failed his physical and is not part of training camp.
Manuel failed to beat out Roman in 2 prior seasons and even after Roman was signed away in free agency the Bengals cut Manuel. Manuel, a 6th round pick, was a back up last season until the injury of the starter.
It is now up to Underwood, Boger, and Culver to sort out who is the starter.
Roman the number #34 pick overall in the 2000 draft is released with nothing obtained just like Wahle and Sharper.
Will Manuel be ready to play soon????
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If that is " the TRUTH " one word.Originally posted by CaliforniaCheezManuel failed his physical and is not part of training camp.
Manuel failed to beat out Roman in 2 prior seasons and even after Roman was signed away in free agency the Bengals cut Manuel. Manuel, a 6th round pick, was a back up last season until the injury of the starter.
It is now up to Underwood, Boger, and Culver to sort out who is the starter.
Roman the number #34 pick overall in the 2000 draft is released with nothing obtained just like Wahle and Sharper.
Will Manuel be ready to play soon????
Stink. another, one word reaction. . .WOW !** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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