An Open Letter To Dom Capers

[Scott Campbell]

What good is it to stuff the run on first and second down if you're going to let Favre part you like the Red Sea on 3rd and long? What the fuck?

[mraynrand]

Re: An Open Letter To Dom Capers

What good is it to stuff the run on first and second down if you're going to let Favre part you like the Red Sea on 3rd and long? What the fuck?

Pittsburgh reminded everyone how to beat him. Unfortunately we didn't have the horses up front to pull it off.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: An Open Letter To Dom Capers

What good is it to stuff the run on first and second down if you're going to let Favre part you like the Red Sea on 3rd and long? What the fuck?

Pittsburgh reminded everyone how to beat him. Unfortunately we didn't have the horses up front to pull it off.

Exceptionally well said.

[denverYooper]

Cullen Jenkins posted an open letter to Dom Capers in the JSO today:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/68436002.html

"Basically, we have good players on this defense," Jenkins said after Favre completed a two-game whitewashing of the Packers in which he was not sacked once. "We've got Pro Bowl players on this defense and they were sent to the Pro Bowl doing certain things. And they're not doing those things.

"It's tough. We have players who are good at doing stuff and we're not doing it. You want to win, and when you're not winning those things you start questioning, is it that people really want to win or they really want to accomplish another goal, just running what they want to run? I don't know. It's tough, though."

[Bossman641]

Without going through and reviewing all the individual 3rd downs, the Vikings weren't THAT effective on 3rd down (7/16). It wasn't like the first meeting where their conversion rate was ridiculous. The only 3rd down I remember off the top of my head being especially pissed off about was when Vikings had 3rd and 13 or so and Dom only sent 3. Berrian caught the ball in the zone and held on as getting hit by Bigby.

Game was lost on special teams, first half offense, and red zone. Vikings were 4/5 converting TD's.

[Scott Campbell]

Does Jenkins suck? No.
Does Jolly Suck? No.
Does Kampman Suck? No.
Does Pickett suck? No.
Does Raji suck? No.


Maybe Capers sucks.

[Scott Campbell]

Without going through and reviewing all the individual 3rd downs, the Vikings weren't THAT effective on 3rd down (7/16). It wasn't like the first meeting where their conversion rate was ridiculous. The only 3rd down I remember off the top of my head being especially pissed off about was when Vikings had 3rd and 13 or so and Dom only sent 3. Berrian caught the ball in the zone and held on as getting hit by Bigby.

Game was lost on special teams, first half offense, and red zone. Vikings were 4/5 converting TD's.

They gave up 21 points in the second half - 38 points overall. Yeah, they had a short field to defend a few times. But crap that's a lot of points.

[denverYooper]

Without going through and reviewing all the individual 3rd downs, the Vikings weren't THAT effective on 3rd down (7/16). It wasn't like the first meeting where their conversion rate was ridiculous. The only 3rd down I remember off the top of my head being especially pissed off about was when Vikings had 3rd and 13 or so and Dom only sent 3. Berrian caught the ball in the zone and held on as getting hit by Bigby.

Game was lost on special teams, first half offense, and red zone. Vikings were 4/5 converting TD's.

The Vikings third down efficiency was 6-14 (43%). The Pack's was 7-16(44%). The defense was probably embarrassed because 38 points looks bad, but they played an average game.

Special teams really, really hurt. I can't recall the average starting field position but it was somewhere in the vicinity of:

Packers: 20
Vikings 48

The Vikes had 1 drive of over 70 yards (73) as the result of the Keystone Cops play to Harvin.

[denverYooper]

Up until last week, Football outsiders had us ranked 8th in offense, 1st in Defense, and 23rd(!) in special teams, according to their metrics.

4     GB 	35.1% 	8 	27.5% 	4 	4-2 	17.0% 	8 	-20.5% 	1 	-2.3% 	23

After this week, I'd guess Offense will rise, defense will slide a bit, and special teams will drop.

Maybe you should write an open letter to Shawn Slocum.

[gbgary]

jenkins is right and was referring to al and chuck. the second half was different because they played tight man to man a lot of the time...not all of the time but a lot.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't buy it. Capers is good at what he does. Minnesota is just better, and they have a QB that has seen it all. I got the feeling that it didn't matter much what we did. We blitzed and got burned. We sat back and got burned. I thought he was way too conservative in the first game, but I thought he mixed it up well in this game.

[pbmax]

jenkins is right and was referring to al and chuck. the second half was different because they played tight man to man a lot of the time...not all of the time but a lot.

They still caved in the second half. Jenkins refers to the Pro Bowl players doing Pro Bowl things, but that has not resulted in good defense since the first half of 2007. He might want to rethink his criteria. Maybe none of them can pash rush for a lick.

We need a pass rush and losing Chillar isn't good news. Help them Obi Wan Bishop, you're they're only hope.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The MN offense is loaded with playmakers and a solid OL. It's not like we lost to the Browns or something like that.

[imscott72]

I don't buy it. Capers is good at what he does. Minnesota is just better, and they have a QB that has seen it all. I got the feeling that it didn't matter much what we did. We blitzed and got burned. We sat back and got burned. I thought he was way too conservative in the first game, but I thought he mixed it up well in this game.

I thought he mixed it well to. It's just coming down to which team is better like you said. We can analyze this all the way til next Sunday and it's not going to matter because the Vikings are just better. Pittsburgh had a much better front 7 and were able to get at Favre more consistently, and have a solid back 4 who can cover more consistently. I don't think Capers is all that bad, we were just overmatched. Guys weren't winning their individual battles often enough.

[red]

the thing thats starting to bug me is the zone coverage

we have maybe the best two man to man corners in the nfl, and another decent one in t-will

yet, in the zone they're playing 10 yards off the wr, and to make matters worse we end up with guys like kampman , chillar, hawk or barnett, covering guys like percy harvin. we're never gonna win that one