Rodgers has highest rating in the league

[FritzDontBlitz]

I just don't want Aaron to become a stat guy, leading in all these areas but not having won anything. We have too many of those quarterbacks. You have to win the big game.

Leroy Butler

QFT.

Or, if you have no idea what QFT means....."Lynn Dickey."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Yeah....losers. They should just forfeit the rest of the season.

Brilliant! That leaves us plenty of time to ruminate on the Bucks!

We can have a Jennings vs. Jennings debate.

Which first round pick has been the biggest disappointment?

Sub category: White big men, the Search for Nessie.

How soft is Bogurt. News at 11.

Macho Aussie. LOL

Stick to poker playing. Wussies.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I just don't want Aaron to become a stat guy, leading in all these areas but not having won anything. We have too many of those quarterbacks. You have to win the big game.

Leroy Butler

QFT.

Or, if you have no idea what QFT means....."Lynn Dickey."

Butler is an idiot.

The packers "have too many of those quarterbacks."

I don't know which org he has been following for the past 40 years, but we rarely had any QB putting up great stats, leading in all those areas, cept for Favre. But, he got us a SB, so we don't count him in Leroy's view.

If you count Dickey, then Arod would be the 2nd.

Blaming Dickey. LOL

Blaming Arod. LOL

Way to many variables for both teams to even try to assess and assign blame.

[Partial]

WSSP brought up an interesting topic tonight that I've not considered. If the Pack don't make the playoffs, ARods next huge game will against the Vikings next year. Can you even imagine the kind of questions that will be facing ARod and the Pack if they don't make the playoffs when they face those guys next year?

He absolutely has to beat Dallas.

I imagine Favre is back next year if they don't win the big one this year. What if Rodgers and the TT/MM regime went 0-4 against the man? That would make them look really, really inept.

[MichiganPackerFan]

A win against a quality team would go a long ways for confidence building

[Tyrone Bigguns]

WSSP brought up an interesting topic tonight that I've not considered. If the Pack don't make the playoffs, ARods next huge game will against the Vikings next year. Can you even imagine the kind of questions that will be facing ARod and the Pack if they don't make the playoffs when they face those guys next year?

He absolutely has to beat Dallas.

I imagine Favre is back next year if they don't win the big one this year. What if Rodgers and the TT/MM regime went 0-4 against the man? That would make them look really, really inept.

Imagine if Favre came back this year and beat the pack but didnt' win the SB. What a choke job. A fully loaded team. A team so great he felt that off season conditioning wasn't necessary. That training camp wasn't necessary. A team just a QB away from winning it.

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Imagine the intense pressure Favre would face to actually be in shape. Imagine the intense pressure for Favre to attend OTAs. Imagine Favre actually attending a full training camp. Imagine knowing you have a limited window and you have to win. Lot of pressure, and imagine knowing that you have lost 2 SBs now, or that you failed to get the Vikes into the SB.

Imagine the viking vets and YOUNG guys Bert's commitment if he doesn't do these things.

Can you imagine the Vikes fan knowingly comment to themselves that beating the pack is all good, but that wasn't the reason they got favre. Ty is shivering in anticipation.

Wow. That would make him look pretty stupid and sad. Sullying a legacy to win a championship and then just being another old guy who hung on to long. Imagine that.

[g4orce]

Imagine if Favre came back this year and beat the pack but didnt' win the SB. What a choke job. A fully loaded team. A team so great he felt that off season conditioning wasn't necessary. That training camp wasn't necessary. A team just a QB away from winning it.

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Imagine the intense pressure Favre would face to actually be in shape. Imagine the intense pressure for Favre to attend OTAs. Imagine Favre actually attending a full training camp. Imagine knowing you have a limited window and you have to win. Lot of pressure, and imagine knowing that you have lost 2 SBs now, or that you failed to get the Vikes into the SB.

Imagine the viking vets and YOUNG guys Bert's commitment if he doesn't do these things.

Can you imagine the Vikes fan knowingly comment to themselves that beating the pack is all good, but that wasn't the reason they got favre. Ty is shivering in anticipation.

Wow. That would make him look pretty stupid and sad. Sullying a legacy to win a championship and then just being another old guy who hung on to long. Imagine that.

You really think Favres not back to win a Super Bowl? You're crazy man! Ya tearing up the Packers was a good motivator for him but his sole goal was/is winning the whole friggin thing and he's finally got a team thats capable of doing so.

[Smidgeon]

Imagine if Favre came back this year and beat the pack but didnt' win the SB. What a choke job. A fully loaded team. A team so great he felt that off season conditioning wasn't necessary. That training camp wasn't necessary. A team just a QB away from winning it.

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Imagine the intense pressure Favre would face to actually be in shape. Imagine the intense pressure for Favre to attend OTAs. Imagine Favre actually attending a full training camp. Imagine knowing you have a limited window and you have to win. Lot of pressure, and imagine knowing that you have lost 2 SBs now, or that you failed to get the Vikes into the SB.

Imagine the viking vets and YOUNG guys Bert's commitment if he doesn't do these things.

Can you imagine the Vikes fan knowingly comment to themselves that beating the pack is all good, but that wasn't the reason they got favre. Ty is shivering in anticipation.

Wow. That would make him look pretty stupid and sad. Sullying a legacy to win a championship and then just being another old guy who hung on to long. Imagine that.

You really think Favres not back to win a Super Bowl? You're crazy man! Ya tearing up the Packers was a good motivator for him but his sole goal was/is winning the whole friggin thing and he's finally got a team thats capable of doing so.

Which is why if he doesn't it will make the whole thing slightly (or more than slightly) comical.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Imagine if Favre came back this year and beat the pack but didnt' win the SB. What a choke job. A fully loaded team. A team so great he felt that off season conditioning wasn't necessary. That training camp wasn't necessary. A team just a QB away from winning it.

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Imagine the intense pressure Favre would face to actually be in shape. Imagine the intense pressure for Favre to attend OTAs. Imagine Favre actually attending a full training camp. Imagine knowing you have a limited window and you have to win. Lot of pressure, and imagine knowing that you have lost 2 SBs now, or that you failed to get the Vikes into the SB.

Imagine the viking vets and YOUNG guys Bert's commitment if he doesn't do these things.

Can you imagine the Vikes fan knowingly comment to themselves that beating the pack is all good, but that wasn't the reason they got favre. Ty is shivering in anticipation.

Wow. That would make him look pretty stupid and sad. Sullying a legacy to win a championship and then just being another old guy who hung on to long. Imagine that.

You really think Favres not back to win a Super Bowl? You're crazy man! Ya tearing up the Packers was a good motivator for him but his sole goal was/is winning the whole friggin thing and he's finally got a team thats capable of doing so.

Dude. I'm gonna be nice. Just read it again. This time, take some time, think about what i wrote, then feel free to post again.

You are in the big leagues now. You don't wanna strikeout 2x in a row.

[g4orce]

Imagine if Favre came back this year and beat the pack but didnt' win the SB. What a choke job. A fully loaded team. A team so great he felt that off season conditioning wasn't necessary. That training camp wasn't necessary. A team just a QB away from winning it.

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Imagine the intense pressure Favre would face to actually be in shape. Imagine the intense pressure for Favre to attend OTAs. Imagine Favre actually attending a full training camp. Imagine knowing you have a limited window and you have to win. Lot of pressure, and imagine knowing that you have lost 2 SBs now, or that you failed to get the Vikes into the SB.

Imagine the viking vets and YOUNG guys Bert's commitment if he doesn't do these things.

Can you imagine the Vikes fan knowingly comment to themselves that beating the pack is all good, but that wasn't the reason they got favre. Ty is shivering in anticipation.

Wow. That would make him look pretty stupid and sad. Sullying a legacy to win a championship and then just being another old guy who hung on to long. Imagine that.

You really think Favres not back to win a Super Bowl? You're crazy man! Ya tearing up the Packers was a good motivator for him but his sole goal was/is winning the whole friggin thing and he's finally got a team thats capable of doing so.

Dude. I'm gonna be nice. Just read it again. This time, take some time, think about what i wrote, then feel free to post again.

You are in the big leagues now. You don't wanna strikeout 2x in a row.

I guess I'm missing something. It just sounded as though u thought all he came back for was for 2 games, and I just don't believe that for a second.

[packerbacker1234]

Packers season isn't gone, but only two wins against teams that had winning records going into the game in the last 2 seasons isn't going to cut it. I am not sure on the texans situation: Maybe they have actually beaten teams that are worth a damn?

What I do know is... we haven't. Until we do, it's going to be hard to get a WC. I still want us to get it, but... We have to beat teams like the giants... dallas... don't we still have Pitt and the ravens too? The second half of this schedule is brutal, and chaulk full of playoff contenders. We have to beat not just one, but "many" teams that have winning records to get in.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You really think Favres not back to win a Super Bowl? You're crazy man! Ya tearing up the Packers was a good motivator for him but his sole goal was/is winning the whole friggin thing and he's finally got a team thats capable of doing so.

Dude. I'm gonna be nice. Just read it again. This time, take some time, think about what i wrote, then feel free to post again.

You are in the big leagues now. You don't wanna strikeout 2x in a row.

I guess I'm missing something. It just sounded as though u thought all he came back for was for 2 games, and I just don't believe that for a second.

How old are you?

That would really suck for Favre. How miserable would he be knowing that all he did was beat the pack. Cause he didn't come back to beat us or show up MM, TT, the assistant PR director, etc. He came back to win the SB.

Which part of this paragraph confuses you?

[Brandon494]

Should sacks be figured into the QB Rating formula? Means SO much with regards to qb "performance"

No because its not the QB's job to protect himself.

[Smidgeon]

Should sacks be figured into the QB Rating formula? Means SO much with regards to qb "performance"

No because its not the QB's job to protect himself.

By that same vein, it's not the QB's job to catch the ball, but WR drops are still factored as incompletions.

[mraynrand]

Should sacks be figured into the QB Rating formula? Means SO much with regards to qb "performance"

No because its not the QB's job to protect himself.

QBs can contribute mightily to sacks. Ever watch Rob Johnson play. Simple common sense should tell you this if you haven't watched enough football to know it from experience. Rodgers has contributed to many of his sacks. McCarthy has said so.