views from the game...

[sharpe1027]

It shouldn't be a judgement call, when forward momentum is stopped, then there can't be a fumble because the play should be blown dead especially when the running back is swarmed and being pushed back.

I wasn't sure that Grant's forward momentum was stopped.

The refs were. And looking at Peterson in MN, he was still moving laterally at least. And to be fair, in both cases, the difference could just be a fraction of a second in when the officials blow the whistle. That's football.

It is a judgment call. IMO, Grant's momentum was stopped "longer" than Petersons, draw the line where you want. Could have gone either way.

Given that at least one of the holding calls on the Packer's was a complete phantom (Lang), there were plenty of calls that should have been made against the queens. Reputations are a bitch, just ask Al Harris about illegal contact calls.

[mraynrand]

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[mraynrand]

It shouldn't be a judgement call, when forward momentum is stopped, then there can't be a fumble because the play should be blown dead especially when the running back is swarmed and being pushed back.

I wasn't sure that Grant's forward momentum was stopped.

The refs were. And looking at Peterson in MN, he was still moving laterally at least. And to be fair, in both cases, the difference could just be a fraction of a second in when the officials blow the whistle. That's football.

It is a judgment call. IMO, Grant's momentum was stopped "longer" than Petersons, draw the line where you want. Could have gone either way.

Given that at least one of the holding calls on the Packer's was a complete phantom (Lang), there were plenty of calls that should have been made against the queens. Reputations are a bitch, just ask Al Harris about illegal contact calls.

Lang also held a couple of other times that I saw that wasn't called. I don't think the officials had any affect whatsoever on the outcome of either game.

[sharpe1027]

Lang also held a couple of other times that I saw that wasn't called. I don't think the officials had any affect whatsoever on the outcome of either game.

Neither do I. I just don't understand not making holding calls most of the game, then when you do it is flat wrong. At least save your ammo for obvious calls.

[packrulz]

The running game is a joke, we got 3 fullbacks and can't run the ball. What happened to Quinn "the Hammer" Johnson? Grant can't catch, BJack is hurt all the time, and Ahman is old. I don't blame it all on the offensive line either.

[bobblehead]

the first game officiating hurt us bad...it was very lopsided. this game was called somewhat even. It certainly wasn't why we lost.

BF can still play when he is motivated, no doubt. If TJ were the QB we probably beat them at least one of the games. No way they would be 7-1.

My only gripe with the officiating was on our one decent kick return the flag came out WAY late. Same as the PI call on woodson in the first game. Official is standing right on top of the play, but the flag come from the other side about 3 seconds AFTER woodson has the ball.

The officials didn't make us decide not to block allen on 2nd and 2, they didn't make Babre whiff on the following 3rd and 8, and they didn't make Crosby miss the FG. That drive cost us a legit shot at winning. If we get a TD and the lead its a HUGE momentum swing, but if we even make the FG it puts a lot more pressure on the offense and we might have actually kicked off and not let them return it to midfield.

I still believe this team could peak. I don't think we have the talent that Minnesota does, but we have a enough to make a run at it if we get into the playoffs and Tauscher takes back his job. Lang seems serviceable, but not a long term answer at LT, guard or RT probably, but he just isn't physically an LT. College can start his late season turn around any game now too.