Official FIRE Mike McCarthy Campaign

[arcilite]

John Gruden. Do it.

I vote for Gruden.

We need to keep TT.

GMs usually get two chances at coaches, MM isnt gonna work out.

[Old School]

I was a McCarthy supporter until last week. The way he handled the Jolly head butting penalty proved to me he let's the inmates run the asylum. He might be a good quarterback coach, but can't control, prepare, or motivate a team.

With the knowledge he's not a leader, I was not surprised in the least by today's outcome. This week we'll hear we have to fix that ad nauseam. Sadly by the time we finally get a new coach, Rodgers will be watching the games on TV while sitting in a wheel chair.

College should go into TV full time on WBAY, and leave football to the football players. Tatoos don't help you block.

I don't comment often, but this is getting disgusting.

[red]

John Gruden. Do it.

I vote for Gruden.

We need to keep TT.

GMs usually get two chances at coaches, MM isnt gonna work out.

i don't think you can give TT another chance. if M# goes then TT goes with him.

if you fire M3 and not TT then your just giving TT a free pass for 3 more years.

and the big unit has made mention that he's talked to members of the board of directers and some of them have told him that M3 and TT are in bed together, if one goes so does the other. and other members have said if the favre fiasco were to backfire then they would want TT out. the favre thing has been a disaster

sounds like theres people on the board that are prepared to move on. and they are the ones that make the decisions

[Partial]

Mike McCarthy officially on the clock syas packer post game

again, gotta love Bill Michels.

You think they'll get rid of him with the 3 years left on contract?

[Brandon494]

John Gruden. Do it.

I vote for Gruden.

We need to keep TT.

GMs usually get two chances at coaches, MM isnt gonna work out.

+1

[Brandon494]

NOT Gruden. He took Tony Dungy's Super Bowl caliber team and turned them into the team we overlooked today.

Was he the GM in Tampa Bay?

[Partial]

True enough.

He's the most charismatic guy I've ever been around. They said he couldn't make the adjustment to the SEC, and he responded by winning 2 national championships.

But he's making $4M per at Florida. I don't think he'd be interested. But it I were the guy making the hire, he's the guy that I'd pursue relentlessly.

I don't think his offense will translate directly to the NFL. Linebackers are too fast and safeties are too good of tacklers to run all the options stuff.

That said, he's a smart guy so I'm sure he could come up with something.

I could get down with that. I'd rather have Dungy, personally. Clay Matthews could be a better pass rushing Derrick Brooks

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True enough.

He's the most charismatic guy I've ever been around. They said he couldn't make the adjustment to the SEC, and he responded by winning 2 national championships.

But he's making $4M per at Florida. I don't think he'd be interested. But it I were the guy making the hire, he's the guy that I'd pursue relentlessly.

I don't think his offense will translate directly to the NFL. Linebackers are too fast and safeties are too good of tacklers to run all the options stuff.

That said, he's a smart guy so I'm sure he could come up with something.

I could get down with that. I'd rather have Dungy, personally. Clay Matthews could be a better pass rushing Derrick Brooks

does dungy ever want to coach again?

i thought he was pretty happy to call it a career

i wouldn't mind dungy, but at this point i would rather have a hard nosed kick a players ass for screwing up type of coach

[Iron Mike]

I'm all for bringing the Walrus back.

[rbaloha1]

The team's performance is surprising. MM comes across as a tough no nonsense type of coach. However MM teams are sloppy and undisciplined. Problems fester too long. While not a Sherman supporter at least he fixed problems from game to game.

Agree that MM is probably best as a position coach and not a head coach. Shall join the fire MM bandwagon if the Packers fail to make the playoffs.

[pbmax]

I can't blame everything on McCarthy...there are some real areas on the roster where talent is a major issue, and they are seriously handcuffing this team's ability to gain an identity. Toss in a defense that doesn't seem to be buying into the 3-4 scheme...and you've got a mess.

However, the one area that McCarthy has no excuse in revolves around the penalties, discipline and motivation. He is failing miserably in that area...and the players recognize it and have lost respect for him.

Just on that...he needs to go.

This team has quit. They have quit on the coaching staff and that is a BIG, BIG problem.

This team has many holes but I blame this loss on McCarthy.

Rodgers had a bad day but did McCarthy ever roll him out to get away from the pressure? No. Any quick slants? No. Any passes to the tight end today? One. Any screen passes today? Maybe, one.

Every pass play, Rodgers was looking 20-25 yards down the field. Looking for the "big play" every pass attempt. That was the game plan .... bad game plan McCarthy!

This is the question everyone is asking, but no one has an answer. Are these the plays McCarthy is calling or are those the routes that Rodgers is looking for?

Several times Rodgers went out of his way in the first half to either throw the ball away OOB or throw quickly. This included the Ahman screen and two quick throws to WRs who faced coverage well off the line. There were also three run pass options, two of which went to Jennings. By the third quarter this had stopped.

Earlier this season (after the Viking game I think) Rodgers had at first insisted that he would keep on doing what he was doing when asked if he was holding the ball too long. McCarthy insisted that he was given the progression and needed to stick with it.

With Favre in 06 and 07, it was very controlled and short. My sense was that we took a shot only occasionally and sometimes it was Favre calling his own play for one on one coverage. This year we seem to either have no one open or running really long routes on 5 step drops.

I think the QB has hit the sophomore slump as Favre did in 93. The question now is when will he pull out of the dive?

[mraynrand]

[pbmax]

I agree with this 100%. I think he sees "explosive" plays as the keys to winning. Maybe because he's such a numbers and stats guy. I'm exactly the opposite. I think you succeed by winning every down, which means gaining positive yardage and playing the field position game. I don't care who you're playing, if you pass too much you keep the other teams offense on the field too long. And if your punter is mediocre like ours, you lose the field position game as well.

But a numbers guy also knows what his net yards are with Special Teams factored in. So he knows he is getting killed there. He also knows playing the field position game is a good strategy because as your target gets closer, you are less likely to make a mistake and more likely to score.

As for long drives, we have too many of those without points. The Packers won the TOP battle today and look what good it did them. 10+ minutes got you a double digit loss.

We had 130+ net yards on this team. The problem isn't attitude or buying in to the 3-4 or long pass plays. And its not talent. The Packers outplayed the Bucs in most areas except coverage units and pass rush.

Its mistakes. Turnovers, bad special teams play, penalties (5-35 would look great without the other mistakes), missed blocking assignments (Colledge is playing schizophrenic this year) and dropped passes.

[Badgerinmaine]

I'm usually one of the last people here to be critical, but I have had it with Mike McCarthy. He is unimaginative, motivates poorly and frankly just does not seem all that bright. His teams have been undisciplined and penalty-prone. Honestly, I'd prefer Mike Sherman as coach to this. No, that's not my first choice, but it'd be an improvement at this point.

But this isn't baseball. Mid-season coaching changes hardly ever happen in football, and when they do it's almost always because of an epic disaster worse than where the Packers are now. It's too complex to change systems in mid-season and hope for good results. But unless there is a total turnaround, and even though there would have to be several years of contract to eat, I think the end of the season will be the time to show McCarthy the door.

[MichiganPackerFan]

NOT Gruden. He took Tony Dungy's Super Bowl caliber team and turned them into the team we overlooked today.

I think you're right. Gruden did really well in Oakland and then ran down Dungy's team. At least he had the class to thank Dungy for the team as one of the first thins he said following the SB win. I like the guy, I just don't think he's top notch.