Draft talk time- C.J. Spiiler

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Spiller puts up 233 on 20 carries today. Good looking back.

and he's been hurt all year

i also watched ingram yesterday. indram seems to run hard through big giant holes that his line is making for him. it seemed pretty fitting that they compared him to emitt smith

spiller or the other hand is more like barry sanders. if a hole isn't there, he'll find another way to get yards

ingram seems to me like a guy you can find anywhere, spiller seems pretty special

of course i also thought reggie bush would be special too

The difference between Bush and Spiller is the supporting cast. Bush played with a bunch of all-american candidates.

True, but Bush was also the much, much, much better college player as a result. Maybe not yardage wise because there is a finite number of yards a team is going to rack up, but I've never seen a college player in the past 10 years that was as crazy quick/fast/explosive as Bush.

Peterson was the best running back but Bush was the best athlete.

Did you watch the GT / Clemson game yesterday?

Nope, but heard he had an awesome game.

[Bretsky]

Spiller puts up 233 on 20 carries today. Good looking back.

and he's been hurt all year

i also watched ingram yesterday. indram seems to run hard through big giant holes that his line is making for him. it seemed pretty fitting that they compared him to emitt smith

spiller or the other hand is more like barry sanders. if a hole isn't there, he'll find another way to get yards

ingram seems to me like a guy you can find anywhere, spiller seems pretty special

of course i also thought reggie bush would be special too

The difference between Bush and Spiller is the supporting cast. Bush played with a bunch of all-american candidates.

True, but Bush was also the much, much, much better college player as a result. Maybe not yardage wise because there is a finite number of yards a team is going to rack up, but I've never seen a college player in the past 10 years that was as crazy quick/fast/explosive as Bush.

Peterson was the best running back but Bush was the best athlete.

That said, I have a firm "No Clemson Players" rule to supplement my "No Babies" rule. Not interested in a player from Clemson.

What am I missing ? No "Clemson" rule ?

I'm thinking of the shit draft picks and I don't remember them being from Clemson

[Bossman641]

Spiller puts up 233 on 20 carries today. Good looking back.

and he's been hurt all year

i also watched ingram yesterday. indram seems to run hard through big giant holes that his line is making for him. it seemed pretty fitting that they compared him to emitt smith

spiller or the other hand is more like barry sanders. if a hole isn't there, he'll find another way to get yards

ingram seems to me like a guy you can find anywhere, spiller seems pretty special

of course i also thought reggie bush would be special too

The difference between Bush and Spiller is the supporting cast. Bush played with a bunch of all-american candidates.

True, but Bush was also the much, much, much better college player as a result. Maybe not yardage wise because there is a finite number of yards a team is going to rack up, but I've never seen a college player in the past 10 years that was as crazy quick/fast/explosive as Bush.

Peterson was the best running back but Bush was the best athlete.

That said, I have a firm "No Clemson Players" rule to supplement my "No Babies" rule. Not interested in a player from Clemson.

What am I missing ? No "Clemson" rule ?

I'm thinking of the shit draft picks and I don't remember them being from Clemson

Donnell Washington was from Clemson

For the Bears, Gaines Adams is from Clemson, but I think Partial likes him. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

EDIT - Antuan Edwards as well.

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What am I missing ? No "Clemson" rule ?

I'm thinking of the shit draft picks and I don't remember them being from Clemson

Antuan Edwards, Donnell Washington, Tye Hill, Rod Gardner and plenty of other NFL busts are from Clemson. I don't know, I just have a very negative perception of their school. Not saying it's the rule, but I personally don't get very high on their players.

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Spiller puts up 233 on 20 carries today. Good looking back.

and he's been hurt all year

i also watched ingram yesterday. indram seems to run hard through big giant holes that his line is making for him. it seemed pretty fitting that they compared him to emitt smith

spiller or the other hand is more like barry sanders. if a hole isn't there, he'll find another way to get yards

ingram seems to me like a guy you can find anywhere, spiller seems pretty special

of course i also thought reggie bush would be special too

The difference between Bush and Spiller is the supporting cast. Bush played with a bunch of all-american candidates.

True, but Bush was also the much, much, much better college player as a result. Maybe not yardage wise because there is a finite number of yards a team is going to rack up, but I've never seen a college player in the past 10 years that was as crazy quick/fast/explosive as Bush.

Peterson was the best running back but Bush was the best athlete.

Did you watch the GT / Clemson game yesterday?

Nope, but heard he had an awesome game.

Well the stats are nice and that's what qualifies an 'awesome game' but it's more of how he gets these yards. Defenders have very good angles on him, he flies past them ... he's bottled up inside the tackles, jukes two linebackers and instantly hits the secondary. The guy might be the only guy who I'd argue is more of an exciting back to watch than Bush was in college. Can't really explain it, you have to see it yourself. He makes 3 yard losses, 5 yard gains.

I think he'll go top 15 ...

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What am I missing ? No "Clemson" rule ?

I'm thinking of the shit draft picks and I don't remember them being from Clemson

Antuan Edwards, Donnell Washington, Tye Hill, Rod Gardner and plenty of other NFL busts are from Clemson. I don't know, I just have a very negative perception of their school. Not saying it's the rule, but I personally don't get very high on their players.

Yeah, that's generally the stereotype with Clemson players although I think it's more focused on their defensive players that have came out and done nothing. Kind of like the old Jeff Tedford QBs can't play in the NFL ...

Wasn't Wayne Simmons from Clemson?

[Zool]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=C&collegeName=Clemson&abbrFlag=0&type=school

Not exactly a who's who of NFL studs on that list. Spiller has speed in droves. If nothing else he'd be a great return man.

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wow, spiller didn't make the heisman finalist balot

and ingram made it

thats messed up IMO

[Lurker64]

Another guy I would be really excited about seeing in Green and Gold is Jerry Hughes DE out of TCU (would project to an OLB in our defense). He's fast, smart, powerful, nasty and has a bunch of different pass rushing moves. TCU has the #1 defense in college football this season for a reason.

Though, the bust rate for picking 4-3 DEs in college and converting them to 3-4 OLBs in the pros is pretty catastrophic, so I might not want to push my luck. Hughes is just another guy (playing a position other than OT) that I like.

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Another guy I would be really excited about seeing in Green and Gold is Jerry Hughes DE out of TCU (would project to an OLB in our defense). He's fast, smart, powerful, nasty and has a bunch of different pass rushing moves. TCU has the #1 defense in college football this season for a reason.

Though, the bust rate for picking 4-3 DEs in college and converting them to 3-4 OLBs in the pros is pretty catastrophic, so I might not want to push my luck. Hughes is just another guy (playing a position other than OT) that I like.

i like him too

and i've seen a few mocks that have us taking both players in the first 2 rounds.

how great would that be?

too bad we almost have to draft a tackle

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last chance to see the greatness that is spiller in college

chris johnson + reggie bush= cj spiller

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there's still hope B

its been awhile, but someone out there still has faith

http://sundaykickoff.com/round1.htm

[Bretsky]

there's still hope B

its been awhile, but someone out there still has faith

http://sundaykickoff.com/round1.htm

too good to be true

[Brandon494]

I don't see any reason why he wouldn't fall to us with the 23rd pick. I can't really see any teams in front of us picking a RB with their #1 pick. I also wouldn't mind if we got Best if CJ was already taken.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't see TT picking Spiller or Best.

1) We're a passing team.

2) If TT picked one to fill a "Percy Harvin"-type role, I believe we'd wind up with a poor man's Percy Harvin. Do either of them have receiver's hands?

3) If Spiller is really as good as Harvin, how could other teams (like Seattle, Miami) pass him by?

4) How could the Packers pass on pass rush guys like Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen and Brandon Graham to get him if he's still available at #23?