Anybody want Crabtree over Raji now?

[red]

I'll take Raji over Crabs. Defense wins Championships. There is no doubt we need to add a speedster returner WR-RB though....hopefully we add one in next years draft.

Agreed, we really don't have any speed on this team.

Seriously who is the faster player on the Packers? Jennings?

nick collins by far

he ran a 4.36 at the combine and at one point also clocked a 4.28

jennings ran a 4.42 at the combine

t-will actually ran a 4.59 at the combine (he must have fallen down somewhere)

wood was a 4.4 guy

jordy ran a 4.51

[Scott Campbell]

I'll take Raji over Crabs. Defense wins Championships. There is no doubt we need to add a speedster returner WR-RB though....hopefully we add one in next years draft.

Agreed, we really don't have any speed on this team.

Seriously who is the faster player on the Packers? Jennings?

I thought Tramon was.

[Brandon494]

Your right I didnt even think about Collins. I don't think he still has that 4.3 speed he had as a rookie though, seems he has put on a few pounds over the years.

[red]

you know who might have been the fastest if it wasn't for mike stock last year

john ryan

dude had freakish speed

[Smidgeon]

Your right I didnt even think about Collins. I don't think he still has that 4.3 speed he had as a rookie though, seems he has put on a few pounds over the years.

I think he's every bit as fast as he was. I just think we don't notice it nearly that much because you don't see people run by him. I think the only times he gets beat in a foot race is when the other guy has been spotted fifteen yards, and then sometimes when the field is long enough he still catches up. This isn't me blowing smoke. He's one of the players that I like, and I like watching him play.

[Freak Out]

Has SF lost every game since they signed the guy? Could be some bad mojo working.....

[dahammer001]

Twill is fast. Woodson is fast.

Jordy is pretty darn fast. Not fluid fast though.

Thought Grant ran a fast 40...somebody posted his 40 time..thought it was in the 4.4 range.


I have heard several packer fans make statements that Ryan Grant is slow, That's complete BS. When anyone who is capable of running the 40 yard dash in 4.4 seconds could not possbly be considered slow. If you think he"s slow go out and try to run a 4.4 forty, and get back to me with your results. Terrell Davis once ran for 2000 yards, and he ran a 4.7 forty. Some fans need to really do your research before you start calling certain players slow.

[Waldo]

I'll take Raji over Crabs. Defense wins Championships. There is no doubt we need to add a speedster returner WR-RB though....hopefully we add one in next years draft.

Agreed, we really don't have any speed on this team.

Seriously who is the faster player on the Packers? Jennings?

nick collins by far

he ran a 4.36 at the combine and at one point also clocked a 4.28

jennings ran a 4.42 at the combine

t-will actually ran a 4.59 at the combine (he must have fallen down somewhere)

wood was a 4.4 guy

jordy ran a 4.51

Did you see Wood catch Johnny Knox (legit <4.30) from behind week 1. Loco.

We cut the fastest guy in camp. Tracy Porter (CB) was a 4.3 flat guy.

T Will's story is weird. I've talked to his agent (very long story, but legit); he used to post at a different message board and I've talked to him on the phone, and his agent's story for his 40 time was cross checked by another scout and it checks out. He was not invited to the combine. He actually was a star CB in college, led the nation in PBU's his senior year, but a small school. At his pro day, he ran on a bad wet track and didn't have the correct type of shoes, and got that number. He asked to run again, on grass, but most teams left and had no interest. The Packers were one of the few teams that chose to stay to witness the retest (Houston was another, who he originally signed with). And he ran a 4.4 flat on damp grass (Meaning he should be a 4.3 something on a track or combine fake grass). His "official" 40 time floating around is way off. On the field he's caught a bunch of speedsters from behind (Harvin recently), and most receivers acknowledge him as the team's fastest defender.

Jordy's speed is weird. Vertical, 10 yd split, 20 yd split, and 40 time are all related. Each is a measure of part of acceleration from zero to top speed. If you run forward though the numbers, with Jordy you reach the conclusion that he isn't actually that fast at accelerating, but the later part of the run (20-40) he keeps accelerating. In other words a long strider with sprinter speed.

I would wager that the fastest guy on the team over the first 20 yards, the quickest, is Tramon (though Clay is shockingly good, like good CB good, faster than AD good, with quickness), and the guy that hits the highest number on a radar gun on a run from one end of the field to the other is Jordy.

[dahammer001]

Brandon494 wrote:
Freak Out wrote:
I'll take Raji over Crabs. Defense wins Championships. There is no doubt we need to add a speedster returner WR-RB though....hopefully we add one in next years draft.


Agreed, we really don't have any speed on this team.

Seriously who is the faster player on the Packers? Jennings?


nick collins by far

he ran a 4.36 at the combine and at one point also clocked a 4.28

jennings ran a 4.42 at the combine

t-will actually ran a 4.59 at the combine (he must have fallen down somewhere)

wood was a 4.4 guy

jordy ran a 4.51


Did you see Wood catch Johnny Knox (legit <4.30) from behind week 1. Loco.

We cut the fastest guy in camp. Tracy Porter (CB) was a 4.3 flat guy.

T Will's story is weird. I've talked to his agent (very long story, but legit); he used to post at a different message board and I've talked to him on the phone, and his agent's story for his 40 time was cross checked by another scout and it checks out. He was not invited to the combine. He actually was a star CB in college, led the nation in PBU's his senior year, but a small school. At his pro day, he ran on a bad wet track and didn't have the correct type of shoes, and got that number. He asked to run again, on grass, but most teams left and had no interest. The Packers were one of the few teams that chose to stay to witness the retest (Houston was another, who he originally signed with). And he ran a 4.4 flat on damp grass (Meaning he should be a 4.3 something on a track or combine fake grass). His "official" 40 time floating around is way off. On the field he's caught a bunch of speedsters from behind (Harvin recently), and most receivers acknowledge him as the team's fastest defender.

Jordy's speed is weird. Vertical, 10 yd split, 20 yd split, and 40 time are all related. Each is a measure of part of acceleration from zero to top speed. If you run forward though the numbers, with Jordy you reach the conclusion that he isn't actually that fast at accelerating, but the later part of the run (20-40) he keeps accelerating. In other words a long strider with sprinter speed.

I would wager that the fastest guy on the team over the first 20 yards, the quickest, is Tramon (though Clay is shockingly good, like good CB good, faster than AD good, with quickness), and the guy that hits the highest number on a radar gun on a run from one end of the field to the other is Jordy.


Great article.

[Partial]

I would put the chances that Clay Matthews is faster than Peterson at about 1 in 100,000,000. "So you're telling me there's chance!"

[Cheesehead Craig]

Crabtree's 0-4 while he's been on the 49ers roster. He's a loser and they should trade him.

[Smidgeon]

I would put the chances that Clay Matthews is faster than Peterson at about 1 in 100,000,000. "So you're telling me there's chance!"

That was over short range, not long range.

[cheesner]

I would put the chances that Clay Matthews is faster than Peterson at about 1 in 100,000,000. "So you're telling me there's chance!"

That was over short range, not long range.

Mattews is FASTER than Peterson in short range.


Player 40 yd - 10 yd split

Adrian Peterson 4.40 1.53
Clay Matthews 4.58 1.49



What is amazing about this is that CM was 23lbs heavier at the combine. CM has quick twitch muscles.

[3irty1]

In Partial's mind AP has the speed of Deon Sanders, the Moves of Barry Sanders, and the flavor of Colonel Sanders.

Man-crush happens. God damn I love Al Harris.

[Partial]

In Partial's mind AP has the speed of Deon Sanders, the Moves of Barry Sanders, and the flavor of Colonel Sanders.

Man-crush happens. God damn I love Al Harris.

Basically. Adrian Peterson is the best player to enter the NFL in a long, long, long time.

He is football fast. I don't recall ever seeing him caught from behind in the open field when he doesn't have to cut or anything.