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  • #16
    There are too many basic and repeated mistakes. That is the coaches fault, unless the players are all Jude Waddy / Torrence Mashall morons. We won't fully know where and how the talent needs to be upgraded until the coaching gets way better.
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    • #17
      So far most people seem to think the blame lies primarily with McCarthy. There appears to be a sense from many people - though not all - that there is more talent on this team than has been shown so far.

      I am increasingly disappointed in McCarthy. I thought the pieces were in place, essentially, and the team has had no more injury problem than any other team in the NFL. Light on the O line, for sure, but as every time I read a scouting report for the week's opponent I see comments about this half of the o-line is a couple of stiffs, this left tackle is a mauler who can be beaten, and so on and so forth. It seems that few teams have stellar offensive lines, yet GB manages to have some of the worst performances from its offensive line than just about any other team in the league.

      That is, even if they're not that great, shouldn't Campen/MM be able to get them to be, at least, mediocre?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fritz
        So far most people seem to think the blame lies primarily with McCarthy. There appears to be a sense from many people - though not all - that there is more talent on this team than has been shown so far.

        I am increasingly disappointed in McCarthy. I thought the pieces were in place, essentially, and the team has had no more injury problem than any other team in the NFL. Light on the O line, for sure, but as every time I read a scouting report for the week's opponent I see comments about this half of the o-line is a couple of stiffs, this left tackle is a mauler who can be beaten, and so on and so forth. It seems that few teams have stellar offensive lines, yet GB manages to have some of the worst performances from its offensive line than just about any other team in the league.

        That is, even if they're not that great, shouldn't Campen/MM be able to get them to be, at least, mediocre?
        I have been supportive of both TT and M3 all season...for the most part. I'm still a fan of TT's draft evaluation ability. But M3 is losing me game by game. I wonder what another coach could do with the same talent: a top 5 or 10 QB, top 5 WR team, top secondary (3 Pro-bowlers), DL and LB talent, etc.

        So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Smidgeon

          So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

          Urban Meyer.

          He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            Originally posted by Smidgeon

            So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

            Urban Meyer.

            He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
            Remind of us of that long line of college coaches that were successful in the NFL.

            He is running the spread. That ain't gonna cut it in the NFL.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              Originally posted by Smidgeon

              So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

              Urban Meyer.

              He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
              Is he looking to jump to the NFL?
              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #22
                Packers might only be able to hire Lane Meyer

                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Smidgeon
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by Smidgeon

                  So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

                  Urban Meyer.

                  He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
                  Is he looking to jump to the NFL?


                  Doubt it. He's making $4M per at FL.


                  I think he's the best coach in sports, and have since he was here at Utah.

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                  • #24
                    Again, please list the successful college coaches in the NFL.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon

                      So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

                      Urban Meyer.

                      He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
                      Is he looking to jump to the NFL?


                      Doubt it. He's making $4M per at FL.


                      I think he's the best coach in sports, and have since he was here at Utah.
                      He also will be in line for the Notre Dame job.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        Originally posted by Smidgeon
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        Originally posted by Smidgeon

                        So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

                        Urban Meyer.

                        He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
                        Is he looking to jump to the NFL?

                        Doubt it. He's making $4M per at FL.


                        I think he's the best coach in sports, and have since he was here at Utah.

                        Are there any available NFL coaches (or assistant coaches) who you think could take GB to the next step?
                        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by hoosier
                          In his postgame comments yesterday McCarthy had a cryptic comment in response to a question about the pass protection comments:
                          The other part of it too, I thought he had plenty of time to throw. I'm real curious to see the film because either they're doing a hell of a job covering us. There is time and time again that our receivers, on crossing routes versus that coverage, I'll be curious to see what the film looks like.
                          . Is he discretely pointing the finger at Rodgers here, suggesting that ARod needs to start taking more risks with the short passing game instead of holding onto it indefinitely?
                          That would seem to be exactly what he is saying. And why, when everyone screams for the play callers head for too many long pass plays, they need to remember that the play called in the huddle may not be the one they see executed at the LOS.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Again, please list the successful college coaches in the NFL.
                            I'd take Jimmy Johnson any day of the week

                            Most coaches fail. I have no view of Urban Meyer but IMO if you think he's a rising star you don't run because he's a college coach
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #29
                              Undoubtedly both

                              We've overrated TTT
                              We've overrated MM

                              I'm not sold it's the assistant coaches but that's where the axes will fall first
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mngolf19
                                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                                Originally posted by Smidgeon
                                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                                Originally posted by Smidgeon

                                So I guess I'll pose a question: what coach available with his specific history could get the most out of the GB talent (because I do believe GB has the talent)?

                                Urban Meyer.

                                He wins everywhere he goes, and with other people's players.
                                Is he looking to jump to the NFL?


                                Doubt it. He's making $4M per at FL.


                                I think he's the best coach in sports, and have since he was here at Utah.
                                He also will be in line for the Notre Dame job.


                                He turned that down for the FL job last time around.

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