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  • #16
    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
    Originally posted by mngolf19
    Originally posted by Smidgeon
    Originally posted by woodbuck27
    How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
    Because the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...
    I'd have to disagree with you there.

    I think that was a tongue in cheek comment.
    Bingo!
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Fritz
      the penalties are mounting faster than a prisoner on a woman.
      I think that was a tongue in - er - cheek comment.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #18
        The very first response pretty much sums up the attitude of the entire organization:


        Question: The season hasn't gone as way you hoped, do you think this can be saved this year?

        Murphy: "Yeah, I do. I've seen enough football and been involved in the NFL long enough that I can see it happening, sure. But obviously I'm disappointed about where we are. The number one goal as an organization every year is to win, but obviously we've got half the season left, and it's really premature to do an evaluation. At the end the season, I'll sit down and see how we performed."
        OMFG ARE YOU KIDDING ME! You have to wait until the END OF THE SEASON to see if the season can be saved?!?!?!?!

        Maybe it's just me, maybe I am the only fan in the world who thinks that you need to evaluate every game so the season doesn't slip away on you. "I can see it happening", see what? There is such a lethargic work ethic from the front office and it trickles right down to McCarthy. Let's wait till the end of the season - yeah that strategy works well. Maybe I should become a Lions or Bucs fan, at least those teams have some heart and even though they suck, they don't put up with this complacent bullshit and are pro-active about trying to actually win football games NOW.

        The realization is starting to sink in that the Packers have a "things will work themselves out, they always do" attitude with no sense of urgency. Patience is fine when you are trying to build a team, so let's wait until next year to see if this master plan works, if not, let's wait another year, it will come around, you will see.

        *COUGH*
        "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
        – Benjamin Franklin

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mngolf19
          Originally posted by Smidgeon
          Originally posted by woodbuck27
          How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
          Because the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...
          I'd have to disagree with you there.

          LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT


          MN RB > GB
          MN OL > GB

          MN TE = GB TE

          MN DL > GB DL
          MN LB = GB LB

          GB CB > MN CB
          GB S = MN S

          MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Originally posted by mngolf19
            Originally posted by Smidgeon
            Originally posted by woodbuck27
            How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
            Because the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...
            I'd have to disagree with you there.

            LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT


            MN RB > GB
            MN OL > GB

            MN TE = GB TE

            MN DL > GB DL
            MN LB = GB LB

            GB CB > MN CB
            GB S = MN S

            MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
            You forgot WRs.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax
              Originally posted by Bretsky
              Originally posted by mngolf19
              Originally posted by Smidgeon
              Originally posted by woodbuck27
              How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
              Because the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...
              I'd have to disagree with you there.

              LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT


              MN RB > GB
              MN OL > GB

              MN TE = GB TE

              MN DL > GB DL
              MN LB = GB LB

              GB CB > MN CB
              GB S = MN S

              MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
              You forgot WRs.

              GB WR's > MN WR's..........but not by much
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Merlin
                The very first response pretty much sums up the attitude of the entire organization:


                Question: The season hasn't gone as way you hoped, do you think this can be saved this year?

                Murphy: "Yeah, I do. I've seen enough football and been involved in the NFL long enough that I can see it happening, sure. But obviously I'm disappointed about where we are. The number one goal as an organization every year is to win, but obviously we've got half the season left, and it's really premature to do an evaluation. At the end the season, I'll sit down and see how we performed."
                OMFG ARE YOU KIDDING ME! You have to wait until the END OF THE SEASON to see if the season can be saved?!?!?!?!

                Maybe it's just me, maybe I am the only fan in the world who thinks that you need to evaluate every game so the season doesn't slip away on you. "I can see it happening", see what? There is such a lethargic work ethic from the front office and it trickles right down to McCarthy. Let's wait till the end of the season - yeah that strategy works well. Maybe I should become a Lions or Bucs fan, at least those teams have some heart and even though they suck, they don't put up with this complacent bullshit and are pro-active about trying to actually win football games NOW.

                The realization is starting to sink in that the Packers have a "things will work themselves out, they always do" attitude with no sense of urgency. Patience is fine when you are trying to build a team, so let's wait until next year to see if this master plan works, if not, let's wait another year, it will come around, you will see.

                *COUGH*
                Or it's showing that Murphy understands the hierarchy of the organization. It's not his responsibility to make football decisions during the middle of the season. That's the GM's responsibility. It's Murphy's responsibility to run the organizational and business side and reevaluate the GM's position at the end of each year. It's no different than another owner (excepting Jerry Jones, of course) taking a laissez faire approach during the season. Murphy said the only thing a respectable "owner" could: that he has faith in the organization, that he hopes things will turn around, and that he'll reevaluate what's within his responsibility to reevaluate at the end of the year.
                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                • #23
                  Why do so many people want to go all Al Davis on this team every time it loses?

                  Look, I think this team has been a huge disappointment. And I see no sign of it getting better. As I've written elsewhere, MM and others have said before that a team is either getting better or getting worse. This team is getting worse.

                  But what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.

                  Besides, the season is long. I personally don't think it'll turn around much at this point, but it could - if you're a fan you've seen just what Murphy has said - teams start hot and seem a sure thing but fade, and others come on at the end.

                  If this team continues to suck butt and at the end of the year heads don't roll, well, then I'll be the first one gathering the pitchforks for a good ol' mob gathering, but it just doesn't make sense to do that yet.

                  But do sharpen up those tines, and get up into the rafters of the garage and get that bucket of tar warmed up.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fritz
                    But do sharpen up those tines, and get up into the rafters of the garage and get that bucket of tar warmed up.
                    Should be plenty of feathers available as the prep work for thanksgiving gets completed

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Fritz

                      Besides, the season is long. I personally don't think it'll turn around much at this point, but it could - if you're a fan you've seen just what Murphy has said - teams start hot and seem a sure thing but fade, and others come on at the end.


                      One of the Sherman teams started 1-4 and made the playoffs. So it definitely can happen. But our line is playing so badly that I'm not going to hold my breath.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        Originally posted by pbmax
                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        Originally posted by mngolf19
                        Originally posted by Smidgeon
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27
                        How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
                        Because the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...
                        I'd have to disagree with you there.

                        LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT


                        MN RB > GB
                        MN OL > GB

                        MN TE = GB TE

                        MN DL > GB DL
                        MN LB = GB LB

                        GB CB > MN CB
                        GB S = MN S

                        MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
                        You forgot WRs.

                        GB WR's > MN WR's..........but not by much
                        ummmm....Lord have Percy....
                        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                        • #27
                          Yes, what can Murphy do at this moment? It would be a nice elixir for us fans if heads would roll right now but it might make things worse if we fire anyone now. If things continue as they are there will be changes at the conclusion of the season.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Pugger
                            If things continue as they are there will be changes at the conclusion of the season.
                            If things continue as they are and changes aren't made at the end of the season, then I think TT is on the hot seat. I think M3 is there now (or sitting down quickly), but TT has until the offseason if there's no change since he's responsible for M3. If TT doesn't make a then necessary change with M3 this offseason, then he's on the hotseat for the following season. If Murphy doesn't make a necessary change then, then he'll be on the hot seat, etc, etc, etc.
                            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              But what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.
                              Yes and no.

                              While there is no advantage right now; if for example one of the available coaches (Gruden, Cowher, Shanny, Marty S, Dungy) were to be hired, it would be advantageous to do so prior to the end of the season. A 2-3 week window at the end of the season gives the coach time to evaluate the roster and other coaches, in practice and in games.

                              That way when keep/not keep decisions are made, when free agency decisions are made, when draft decisions are made, they are made with more information than just game tape. The coach would have the chance to evaluate each player with his own eyes and see what they can do and how he works with them.

                              Plus you could get that coach without any competition for his services. He wouldn't have multiple offers to choose from. Yet.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                But what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.
                                Well, it isn't exactly Murphy's job to fire the coach. That's the GM's job. Hierarchy, people! Hierarchy!
                                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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