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I think that was a tongue in - er - cheek comment.Originally posted by Fritzthe penalties are mounting faster than a prisoner on a woman."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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The very first response pretty much sums up the attitude of the entire organization:
OMFG ARE YOU KIDDING ME! You have to wait until the END OF THE SEASON to see if the season can be saved?!?!?!?!Question: The season hasn't gone as way you hoped, do you think this can be saved this year?
Murphy: "Yeah, I do. I've seen enough football and been involved in the NFL long enough that I can see it happening, sure. But obviously I'm disappointed about where we are. The number one goal as an organization every year is to win, but obviously we've got half the season left, and it's really premature to do an evaluation. At the end the season, I'll sit down and see how we performed."
Maybe it's just me, maybe I am the only fan in the world who thinks that you need to evaluate every game so the season doesn't slip away on you. "I can see it happening", see what? There is such a lethargic work ethic from the front office and it trickles right down to McCarthy. Let's wait till the end of the season - yeah that strategy works well. Maybe I should become a Lions or Bucs fan, at least those teams have some heart and even though they suck, they don't put up with this complacent bullshit and are pro-active about trying to actually win football games NOW.
The realization is starting to sink in that the Packers have a "things will work themselves out, they always do" attitude with no sense of urgency. Patience is fine when you are trying to build a team, so let's wait until next year to see if this master plan works, if not, let's wait another year, it will come around, you will see.
*COUGH*"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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Originally posted by mngolf19I'd have to disagree with you there.Originally posted by SmidgeonBecause the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...Originally posted by woodbuck27How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT
MN RB > GB
MN OL > GB
MN TE = GB TE
MN DL > GB DL
MN LB = GB LB
GB CB > MN CB
GB S = MN S
MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMSTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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You forgot WRs.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by mngolf19I'd have to disagree with you there.Originally posted by SmidgeonBecause the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...Originally posted by woodbuck27How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT
MN RB > GB
MN OL > GB
MN TE = GB TE
MN DL > GB DL
MN LB = GB LB
GB CB > MN CB
GB S = MN S
MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMSBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by pbmaxYou forgot WRs.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by mngolf19I'd have to disagree with you there.Originally posted by SmidgeonBecause the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...Originally posted by woodbuck27How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT
MN RB > GB
MN OL > GB
MN TE = GB TE
MN DL > GB DL
MN LB = GB LB
GB CB > MN CB
GB S = MN S
MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
GB WR's > MN WR's..........but not by muchTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Or it's showing that Murphy understands the hierarchy of the organization. It's not his responsibility to make football decisions during the middle of the season. That's the GM's responsibility. It's Murphy's responsibility to run the organizational and business side and reevaluate the GM's position at the end of each year. It's no different than another owner (excepting Jerry Jones, of course) taking a laissez faire approach during the season. Murphy said the only thing a respectable "owner" could: that he has faith in the organization, that he hopes things will turn around, and that he'll reevaluate what's within his responsibility to reevaluate at the end of the year.Originally posted by MerlinThe very first response pretty much sums up the attitude of the entire organization:
OMFG ARE YOU KIDDING ME! You have to wait until the END OF THE SEASON to see if the season can be saved?!?!?!?!Question: The season hasn't gone as way you hoped, do you think this can be saved this year?
Murphy: "Yeah, I do. I've seen enough football and been involved in the NFL long enough that I can see it happening, sure. But obviously I'm disappointed about where we are. The number one goal as an organization every year is to win, but obviously we've got half the season left, and it's really premature to do an evaluation. At the end the season, I'll sit down and see how we performed."
Maybe it's just me, maybe I am the only fan in the world who thinks that you need to evaluate every game so the season doesn't slip away on you. "I can see it happening", see what? There is such a lethargic work ethic from the front office and it trickles right down to McCarthy. Let's wait till the end of the season - yeah that strategy works well. Maybe I should become a Lions or Bucs fan, at least those teams have some heart and even though they suck, they don't put up with this complacent bullshit and are pro-active about trying to actually win football games NOW.
The realization is starting to sink in that the Packers have a "things will work themselves out, they always do" attitude with no sense of urgency. Patience is fine when you are trying to build a team, so let's wait until next year to see if this master plan works, if not, let's wait another year, it will come around, you will see.
*COUGH*No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Why do so many people want to go all Al Davis on this team every time it loses?
Look, I think this team has been a huge disappointment. And I see no sign of it getting better. As I've written elsewhere, MM and others have said before that a team is either getting better or getting worse. This team is getting worse.
But what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.
Besides, the season is long. I personally don't think it'll turn around much at this point, but it could - if you're a fan you've seen just what Murphy has said - teams start hot and seem a sure thing but fade, and others come on at the end.
If this team continues to suck butt and at the end of the year heads don't roll, well, then I'll be the first one gathering the pitchforks for a good ol' mob gathering, but it just doesn't make sense to do that yet.
But do sharpen up those tines, and get up into the rafters of the garage and get that bucket of tar warmed up."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by Fritz
Besides, the season is long. I personally don't think it'll turn around much at this point, but it could - if you're a fan you've seen just what Murphy has said - teams start hot and seem a sure thing but fade, and others come on at the end.
One of the Sherman teams started 1-4 and made the playoffs. So it definitely can happen. But our line is playing so badly that I'm not going to hold my breath.
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ummmm....Lord have Percy....Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by pbmaxYou forgot WRs.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by mngolf19I'd have to disagree with you there.Originally posted by SmidgeonBecause the difference between the Vikings and the Packers sans the QBs is negligible...Originally posted by woodbuck27How much was Brett Favre really worth to the Green Bay Packers? Since Favre we are 10 W and 14 L. Brett Favre teams are 16 W and 8 L.
LET ME GIVE THIS A SHOT
MN RB > GB
MN OL > GB
MN TE = GB TE
MN DL > GB DL
MN LB = GB LB
GB CB > MN CB
GB S = MN S
MN SPECIAL TM > GB SP TEAMS
GB WR's > MN WR's..........but not by much
They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!
Brew Crew in 2011!!!
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Yes, what can Murphy do at this moment? It would be a nice elixir for us fans if heads would roll right now but it might make things worse if we fire anyone now. If things continue as they are there will be changes at the conclusion of the season.
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If things continue as they are and changes aren't made at the end of the season, then I think TT is on the hot seat. I think M3 is there now (or sitting down quickly), but TT has until the offseason if there's no change since he's responsible for M3. If TT doesn't make a then necessary change with M3 this offseason, then he's on the hotseat for the following season. If Murphy doesn't make a necessary change then, then he'll be on the hot seat, etc, etc, etc.Originally posted by PuggerIf things continue as they are there will be changes at the conclusion of the season.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Yes and no.Originally posted by FritzBut what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.
While there is no advantage right now; if for example one of the available coaches (Gruden, Cowher, Shanny, Marty S, Dungy) were to be hired, it would be advantageous to do so prior to the end of the season. A 2-3 week window at the end of the season gives the coach time to evaluate the roster and other coaches, in practice and in games.
That way when keep/not keep decisions are made, when free agency decisions are made, when draft decisions are made, they are made with more information than just game tape. The coach would have the chance to evaluate each player with his own eyes and see what they can do and how he works with them.
Plus you could get that coach without any competition for his services. He wouldn't have multiple offers to choose from. Yet.
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Well, it isn't exactly Murphy's job to fire the coach. That's the GM's job. Hierarchy, people! Hierarchy!Originally posted by FritzBut what else can Murphy really say or do right now? Firing a coach in midseason makes not one iota of sense. You can't install new schemes in midseason. It wouldn't work and it makes no sense. There's no advantage to firing your coach midseason.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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