Rodgers holds balls too long??

[ThunderDan]

OK gbgary and Thunder Dan, will both of you be on the game day thread?

Let's chart the Packer passes and see how many 3, 5 and seven step drops we get. And let's see how many progressions Rodgers goes through and who he looks for first.

Playcalling versus QB decisions. Let's get some data from this game.

I'd love some good data on the subject.

I will be at the mighty Lambeau Sunday afternoon yelling my guts out.

PS - Being the classless fan that I am I will be booing Romo.

[Smidgeon]

PS - Being the classless fan that I am I will be booing Romo.

+1

[bobblehead]

Maybe Rodgers wont throw the slants and short passes? He NEVER throws over the middle of the field. Its quite disturbing.

As long as he isn't throwing late over the middle of the field...

As to "never", not true. He's thrown balls over the middle to Jones, Finley, Driver, etc. I just don't think you see a lot of short (< 5 yds) throws over that area.

He's thrown over the middle plenty. Here's his stats per ESPN:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8439

It's like Mythbusters around here with Rodgers today.

Again with the over the top statement by g4orce. It must suck getting it in the mouth daily.

[bobblehead]

OK gbgary and Thunder Dan, will both of you be on the game day thread?

Let's chart the Packer passes and see how many 3, 5 and seven step drops we get. And let's see how many progressions Rodgers goes through and who he looks for first.

Playcalling versus QB decisions. Let's get some data from this game.

This is why PR is still the best packer website out there....no other site has posters willing to make this kind of commitment to settle a debate.....kudos guys. (someone else can insert the granola snack picture).

[Badgerinmaine]

Nice post, Bossman--thanks for putting it up.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'd even go so far as to say that MM should shit-can the damn shotgun formation. Sure you can play-action off of it, but IMO play-action off the shotgun is not nearly as effective as off the old "I" formation. The DL knows that 90% of the time an offense in the shotgun is going to pass.

I can agree with that. It would be interesting to see Rodgers' splits from the shotgun. Just my general feeling, but I feel it doesn't suit this team very well: it allows the DL to solely concentrate on Rodgers, Grant isn't quick enough to run effectively from the shotgun, Rodgers doesn't have enough experience to make the quick decisions necessary.

FORMATION CMP ATT YDS  CMP% YPA  LNG TD INT SACK RAT  RATT YDS AVG LNG TD 
Shotgun   93  155 1175 60.0 7.58 62  7  1   21.0 96.0 15   149 9.9 19  2

P.S. RATT = Rushing Attempts

EDIT: So he gets sacked a lot on shotgun, but his rating isn't awful. Another thing I noticed in the splits data: 14 sacks have been on 1st and 10. 14!

Unbelievable the type of stats you guys can come up with. Thanks.

I kind of suspected that he was sacked alot on 1st down. MM seems to call an inordinate number of passes on 1st down. That stat kind of confirms that defenses aren't confused or fooled. They just pin their ears back and go.

[Smidgeon]

Unbelievable the type of stats you guys can come up with. Thanks.

I kind of suspected that he was sacked alot on 1st down. MM seems to call an inordinate number of passes on 1st down. That stat kind of confirms that defenses aren't confused or fooled. They just pin their ears back and go.

Believe you me, I'm not the one coming up with stats. I just pulled the necessary data from the split stats screen on NFL.com.

And I'm not sure M3 calls more passes than runs on 1st down. I don't know what's happening for sure, but GB's been leading the league (not sure if they still do) in quick strike offense. Which means AR might be looking for the big play right out of the gate. Speculation.

[MJZiggy]

A much better thread now.

He seems to hold his balls too long, but then again according to the article that doesn't happen as often as we seem to think. His offensive line is also being given responsiblity for many of his sacks.

I am a little concerned that Rodgers holds his balls too long and has multiple sacks.

Maybe in honor of our friend Skin, we should start calling Rodgers's sacks "skinbaskets."

One could say that if he'd just let go of his balls, he'd be a more efficient passer.

(I've always loved a good double entendre)

[Fritz]

I still think we should start calling sacks "skinbaskets" in honor of our so-named Packerrat.

"Oh no! Rodgers just got skinbasketed!"

"The opposing team has four skinbaskets on Rodgers today."

I little lengthy, but it works.

[Maxie the Taxi]

A much better thread now.

He seems to hold his balls too long, but then again according to the article that doesn't happen as often as we seem to think. His offensive line is also being given responsiblity for many of his sacks.

I am a little concerned that Rodgers holds his balls too long and has multiple sacks.

Maybe in honor of our friend Skin, we should start calling Rodgers's sacks "skinbaskets."

One could say that if he'd just let go of his balls, he'd be a more efficient passer.

(I've always loved a good double entendre)

Maybe MM heard a double entendre when Mike the groundskeeper said to him: "Hey coach, let's get the boys ready to kick some butt this weekend."

[Scott Campbell]

So letting go of his balls means avoiding his sack?

[MJZiggy]

I think you've got it. Once he lets his balls go, the sack isn't an issue.

[sharpe1027]

Sometimes there is a sack involved even when he doesn't hold his balls too long.