Alledged Negative Comment to MM get Lambeau Worker Canned

[sharpe1027]

The boss wasnt there so someone had to tell and it sounds like McDoughboy was the one who went crying.

Sounds like someone's hotseat is causing him to lash out. The man worked for the Pack for over 20 years and suddenly he turns into a rude prick who deserves to be canned? And if he did say it, fuck it. It was worth it to tell fatass face to face that he sucks.

Working somewhere 20 years doesn't mean shit about his personality. That being said, I personally don't think he deserved to be canned for saying "laying an egg."

Aren't many of the game-day workers just guys that show up part-time, often for the benefit of being able to go to games and get on the field? The low man on the totem pole doesn't get much leeway I guess.

[pbmax]

The boss wasnt there so someone had to tell and it sounds like McDoughboy was the one who went crying.

Sounds like someone's hotseat is causing him to lash out.

There were witnesses. How do you know it was McCarthy who reported it?

[pbmax]

McCarthy has a presser coming up on Packers.com and its late. Think they are calling Ari Fleischer?

[Cheesehead Craig]

McCarthy has a presser coming up on Packers.com and its late. Think they are calling Ari Fleischer?

That worker clearly crossed the Rubicon with his comment and they had to let him go.

[pbmax]

McCarthy called someone named Allen over the comment. One comment was made to M3 and he made one comment back. Called Allen to find out the name of the guy but did not ask action to be taken.

Said it was something he would not say to a fellow employee.

[Scott Campbell]

I don't give a crap who they fire as long as they win Sunday.

[Smidgeon]

I don't give a crap who they fire as long as they win Sunday.

I'll care if they win. Then I'll associate the two, claiming a high correlation, and be looking forward to the next firing because it will mean wins!

[Sparkey]

I find it sad that a couple posters here are jumping on others, saying we haven't heard both sides, so we're jumping to conclusions - and then are jumping to conclusions, not having heard both sides. The only difference is that they're jumping to a different conclusion. Do people even pay attention to what they are saying, or is logic just completely out the door any more?

You're so mean. Try adding to the forum and not hating on people!

[red]

IMO

both parties in this matter should have been fired

just to make things fair

[Sparkey]

If he was insulting, I have more respect for him saying it to the Coach directly that the bonehead Eagles worker who put it on his Facebook page.

A suspension seems like it would have been a better idea unless there was precedent.

It probably didn't help that he refused to fess up to it.

You don't know that he did anything. We've only heard his side of the story and he says he did not say what was heard. I think it's jumping to conclusions here.

No.

Management said they determined he said it. It doesn't matter whether he did or did not, they determined he did. Thus, it probably did not help that he didn't admit to it. If he had and perhaps had agreed to apologize, it might have helped his situation.

No conclusion jumping involved.

So, essentially you're saying that even if he didn't say it he should fess up and apologize because management decided he did say it and his word doesn't really matter.

And what 3rd world country are you from again?

This is an at will employment state (I think that is the correct term). You do realize that if your employer thinks it should be rid of you for any reason, you are going to be leaving? The only difference here is that they may have fired him with cause.

Exactly right. Wisconsin, unless a unionized work place, is an at will Employment state. Which means you get hired or fired "at will". Your employer does not need a reason to can your ass.

[ThunderDan]

If he was insulting, I have more respect for him saying it to the Coach directly that the bonehead Eagles worker who put it on his Facebook page.

A suspension seems like it would have been a better idea unless there was precedent.

It probably didn't help that he refused to fess up to it.

You don't know that he did anything. We've only heard his side of the story and he says he did not say what was heard. I think it's jumping to conclusions here.

No.

Management said they determined he said it. It doesn't matter whether he did or did not, they determined he did. Thus, it probably did not help that he didn't admit to it. If he had and perhaps had agreed to apologize, it might have helped his situation.

No conclusion jumping involved.

So, essentially you're saying that even if he didn't say it he should fess up and apologize because management decided he did say it and his word doesn't really matter.

And what 3rd world country are you from again?

This is an at will employment state (I think that is the correct term). You do realize that if your employer thinks it should be rid of you for any reason, you are going to be leaving? The only difference here is that they may have fired him with cause.

Exactly right. Wisconsin, unless a unionized work place, is an at will Employment state. Which means you get hired or fired "at will". Your employer does not need a reason to can your ass.

Of course that works the other way also. You can quit for no cause also.

[sharpe1027]

That worker clearly crossed the Rubicon with his comment and they had to let him go.

Rubicon? Was that the decepticon transformer that had the distinction of turning into Rubik's cube? I wouldn't have crossed him either. I hear he is still pretty sensitive about not having any wheels or jet engines.

[pbmax]

IMO

both parties in this matter should have been fired

just to make things fair

You may just get your wish.

Though in a way its good the Packers are at .500. If this happened and the Packers were flying high and then tanked, we'd be talking about the Curse of Woody.

As it is, we can just blame the offensive line.

[Waldo]

That worker clearly crossed the Rubicon with his comment and they had to let him go.

Rubicon? Was that the decepticon transformer that had the distinction of turning into Rubik's cube? I wouldn't have crossed him either. I hear he is still pretty sensitive about not having any wheels or jet engines.

From Wiki:

Crossing the Rubicon is a metaphor for deliberately proceeding past a point of no return. The phrase originates with Julius Caesar's invasion of Ancient Rome when, on January 10, 49 BC, he led his army across the Rubicon River in violation of law, hence making conflict inevitable. Therefore the term "the Rubicon" is used as a synonym to the "point of no return".

[sharpe1027]

That worker clearly crossed the Rubicon with his comment and they had to let him go.

Rubicon? Was that the decepticon transformer that had the distinction of turning into Rubik's cube? I wouldn't have crossed him either. I hear he is still pretty sensitive about not having any wheels or jet engines.

From Wiki:

Crossing the Rubicon is a metaphor for deliberately proceeding past a point of no return. The phrase originates with Julius Caesar's invasion of Ancient Rome when, on January 10, 49 BC, he led his army across the Rubicon River in violation of law, hence making conflict inevitable. Therefore the term "the Rubicon" is used as a synonym to the "point of no return".

An equally plausible use of the phrase. I don't know though, Rubicon's popularity may have waned of late, but I hear he was a pretty big deal in his day.