Alledged Negative Comment to MM get Lambeau Worker Canned

[Kiwon]

All those who ripped Sherman for not having thick skin can now bag on MM

Those pesky sportswriters and their cell phones they forget to turn off.

[CaliforniaCheez]

I've seen several situations like these happen and can see it from both sides.

1) There was a meeting with the grounds crew. One can assume during a meeting employees can speak.

2) Woody was sitting on the cart during the meeting and when the remark was made. That is very bad form. When someone high up has a meeting you better be on your feet. This obviously gave a very bad impression of a lazy and disrespectful employee. Just like the military senior people do not reprimand those who sit they get those who should have had the group standing to discipline the group.

This is no small thing! Being on you feet is a sign of respect, attentiveness, and enthusiasm for working.

3) Everyone in an organization should share common goals. McCarthy should appreciate demonstrative enthusiastic remarks among the grounds crew.
Part time low level employees make not be the most articulate speakers but crushing their desire to express organizational goals is very bad management. Most upper management people want to hear the chears of the peons.

4) My view of this is that it is a big misunderstanding. I think Woody used a vulgar word other than butt in his "kick butt" remark. McCarthy likely was not paying that closs attention and misheard the remark. A misconception was formed.

5) As with many organizations there is no mole hill so small that it cannot be made into a mountain. When McCarthy spoke to the head of the grounds dept it was blown out of proportion.

6) There are plenty of people willing to go to Lambeau Field on game day and pick up debris and tring endzone netting for free, let alone get paid for it. Getting another person off the street to do it is no problem.

7) These stories will isolate McCarthy. Fewer people will be saying "Good Morning" or anything to McCarthy. His whole world got colder. That is bad for everyone.

[Fritz]

I've seen several situations like these happen and can see it from both sides.

1) There was a meeting with the grounds crew. One can assume during a meeting employees can speak.

2) Woody was sitting on the cart during the meeting and when the remark was made. That is very bad form. When someone high up has a meeting you better be on your feet. This obviously gave a very bad impression of a lazy and disrespectful employee. Just like the military senior people do not reprimand those who sit they get those who should have had the group standing to discipline the group.

This is no small thing! Being on you feet is a sign of respect, attentiveness, and enthusiasm for working.

3) Everyone in an organization should share common goals. McCarthy should appreciate demonstrative enthusiastic remarks among the grounds crew.
Part time low level employees make not be the most articulate speakers but crushing their desire to express organizational goals is very bad management. Most upper management people want to hear the chears of the peons.

4) My view of this is that it is a big misunderstanding. I think Woody used a vulgar word other than butt in his "kick butt" remark. McCarthy likely was not paying that closs attention and misheard the remark. A misconception was formed.

5) As with many organizations there is no mole hill so small that it cannot be made into a mountain. When McCarthy spoke to the head of the grounds dept it was blown out of proportion.

6) There are plenty of people willing to go to Lambeau Field on game day and pick up debris and tring endzone netting for free, let alone get paid for it. Getting another person off the street to do it is no problem.

7) These stories will isolate McCarthy. Fewer people will be saying "Good Morning" or anything to McCarthy. His whole world got colder. That is bad for everyone.

Excellent point. And the only, only cure for this - for all of it - is winning. The potion for disaster has been mixed and is ready; the only anti-dote is winning.

They lose Sunday, and the negativity and ill-will is going to skyrocket. They lose to SF the following week too, and we might as well start a pool as to who the next Packer coach will be and another pool as to whether TT will survive. They lose the next two weeks and the season is toast.

If there were signs that the team was improving I might say otherwise. If there was improvement in special teams, even a little, or on the offensive line, or in the pass rush. But there is zero indication in the last two games that anything's being fixed.

We've gone from having reason for optimism to having nothing but hope - the kind of hope I have of winning the lottery. It could happen but I got no reason to think it will.

It's down to hoping that two rookies can change the fortune of this team: a fourth round offensive lineman and a seventh round linebacker.

[sharpe1027]

The law is what 12 people say it is.

No. The outcome of disputed facts is what 12 people say it is, within reason.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I agree it is smart practice to document things. But, if you fire someone for no reason, you are not breaking the law, period, end of story.

Now, if there is an allegation of some improper reason, then you might have broke the law for that allegation. Still, the question is never, ever, ever, whether our not you fired someone for no reason. You'll never get sued for that, period, end of story.

So, what is it that you are trying to say? That it is smart to have a reason for firing someone? Yes. That most, if not all, employers make sure they have a reason? Yes. Still, there is not a Wisconsin law that requires a reason to fire someone, period, end of story. Nothing you say will change that fact, unless you get the Wisconsin legislature to pass a new law.

[Partial]

Regarding the credibility of this fine stadium debris collector -- did anyone else find this comment rather unusual:
"This was going to be my last year," said Wood, who said he had been working for the Packers for at least 22 years and as many as 25. "The truth is it was starting to get to me, the cold weather and so on," he said.

This guy doesnt know how long he has worked for the Pack? His dream job? He can only narrow it down to a 3-year window? I definitely want to hear more from this cat. This has the potential to get better and better. I smell a reality TV show.......

Yeah I read that too and thought it was pretty messed up. Must not be a very bright guy.

[pbmax]

All those who ripped Sherman for not having thick skin can now bag on MM

They could, but McCarthy would still seem to be listening to peers and employees of the football business. Sherman isolated himself from both at times. No former coach has thrown McCarthy under the bus for not listening.

Although, I could see Jagodzinski being a smart aleck.

[rbaloha1]

Hopefully the worker is correct and awarded a huge settlement. IMO better ways to handle.

[Scott Campbell]

Hopefully the worker is correct and awarded a huge settlement. IMO better ways to handle.

Why would you want the Packers to get screwed?

[rbaloha1]

Hopefully the worker is correct and awarded a huge settlement. IMO better ways to handle.

Why would you want the Packers to get screwed?

All Packer workers need to be treated properly. If others are lying action needs to occur.

[Packers4Glory]

On Friday, McCarthy told reporters that he did have a conversation with Wood and later inquired about Wood's name to a supervisor, but denied any involvement in Wood's firing.

"He made a comment to me, I made a comment to him; it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I would not say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said. "So that's as far as I want to go with it."

Asked if he had anything to do with Wood's firing, McCarthy said, "Absolutely not."

"Like I said, it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I wouldn't say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said.

McCarthy would not reveal what Wood said when asked directly about it. A team official had said that Wood's supervisors determined that he had made an inappropriate remark and he was fired.

wtf why wouldn't you reveal what was said? I mean a dude lost his job over it so why not come out w/ it?? Just makes you look worse and guilty of having something to do with it.

[esoxx]

This whole thing is embarrassing. McStubby has far more important things he should be concerned with beyond a PT worker's glib remark. It's pathetic.

[MOBB DEEP]

This whole thing is embarrassing. McStubby has far more important things he should be concerned with beyond a PT worker's glib remark. It's pathetic.

agreed

but u know in a few years (or maybe months) this mess will be hilarious

[denverYooper]

On Friday, McCarthy told reporters that he did have a conversation with Wood and later inquired about Wood's name to a supervisor, but denied any involvement in Wood's firing.

"He made a comment to me, I made a comment to him; it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I would not say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said. "So that's as far as I want to go with it."

Asked if he had anything to do with Wood's firing, McCarthy said, "Absolutely not."

"Like I said, it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I wouldn't say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said.

McCarthy would not reveal what Wood said when asked directly about it. A team official had said that Wood's supervisors determined that he had made an inappropriate remark and he was fired.

wtf why wouldn't you reveal what was said? I mean a dude lost his job over it so why not come out w/ it?? Just makes you look worse and guilty of having something to do with it.

He's probably not allowed to disclose details because of some kind of company security policy. He's saying as much as he legally can about the matter. So I wouldn't read too much into that.

One thing that people seem to gloss over is that there were witnesses. I know that the Urinal-Scented likes to gloss over this fact to make it sound like a case of McCarthy being thin-skinned, but he apparently wasn't the only one who thought that Wood made a different comment that he suggested he did.

Additionally, the Packers were 4-2 at the time and hardly in hot water at that point. It's funny that the story didn't come out until they lost to Minnesota and then the crapper to Tampa.

You can make a lot of valid complaints about McCarthy's play calling, his inability to assess his staff (holding over unsuccessful coaches), or his questionable game management. I'm not sure I want the guy back next year for these reasons, but I think this story is sensationalistic garbage.

[MJZiggy]

On Friday, McCarthy told reporters that he did have a conversation with Wood and later inquired about Wood's name to a supervisor, but denied any involvement in Wood's firing.

"He made a comment to me, I made a comment to him; it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I would not say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said. "So that's as far as I want to go with it."

Asked if he had anything to do with Wood's firing, McCarthy said, "Absolutely not."

"Like I said, it's not the worst thing that's been said, but I wouldn't say it to a fellow employee," McCarthy said.

McCarthy would not reveal what Wood said when asked directly about it. A team official had said that Wood's supervisors determined that he had made an inappropriate remark and he was fired.

wtf why wouldn't you reveal what was said? I mean a dude lost his job over it so why not come out w/ it?? Just makes you look worse and guilty of having something to do with it.

He's probably not allowed to disclose details because of some kind of company security policy. He's saying as much as he legally can about the matter. So I wouldn't read too much into that.

One thing that people seem to gloss over is that there were witnesses. I know that the Urinal-Scented likes to gloss over this fact to make it sound like a case of McCarthy being thin-skinned, but he apparently wasn't the only one who thought that Wood made a different comment that he suggested he did.

Additionally, the Packers were 4-2 at the time and hardly in hot water at that point. It's funny that the story didn't come out until they lost to Minnesota and then the crapper to Tampa.

You can make a lot of valid complaints about McCarthy's play calling, his inability to assess his staff (holding over unsuccessful coaches), or his questionable game management. I'm not sure I want the guy back next year for these reasons, but I think this story is sensationalistic garbage.

McCarthy isn't going to say anything publicly in case this guy decides to sue the team about it. Protecting the team and staying out of the publicity war. Perhaps they learned something from their last PR nightmare.

[MOBB DEEP]

wonder how this guy is doing now and is he happy with the way the season progressed

Fatboy may want to thank him for lighting a fire under his butt lol