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  • #16
    Well in answer to Fritz's question, somewhere (I cannot find it now) Capers said once they made the Cowboys one dimensional, then they were able to blitz freely.

    He didn't peg it to the 10 point lead though, he let the dogs go as soon as it was clear they were going to be able to stop the run versus the 'Boys. Which is remarkable in itself, because they played nickel a ton to get Woodson on Witten.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Partial
        No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.
        Sadly, I think I agree with one caveat: If Jones keeps improving, film won't negate him. Film on Ryan Grant rendered him ineffective. If he had kept improving, it wouldn't have mattered how much film they had. If Jones doesn't improve, doesn't clean up rookie mistakes, then the film will exploit him.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Partial
          No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.
          They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?

          Kampman's back on the left side though, per GBPG. He should be starting on Sunday. I hope the Niners prepare to exploit Jones!
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fritz
            They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?
            No, because Matthews is improving weekly. If Jones improves weekly, film won't render him ineffective. (I don't know why I'm siding with Partial...)
            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz
              Originally posted by Partial
              No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.
              They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?
              see the post above yours...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Partial
                No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.
                That assumes he was making significant mistakes or lacking in some particular area, which he very well may have been, it is just not a certainty.

                Teams try to exploit even the best players to some degree or another.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  No film on Jones. Give it a week or two and teams will be exploiting him.
                  They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?

                  Kampman's back on the left side though, per GBPG. He should be starting on Sunday. I hope the Niners prepare to exploit Jones!
                  Who knows. It could just be that Jones is a steal and will be a good player. Time will tell, but my guess is he is not great (7th round pick). We'll see, though, here's hoping.

                  I think Clay is a beast and a special player. We'll see with him, too.

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                  • #24
                    I would rotate Kamp in with the DE's, and allow Jones to play OLB.
                    Yeah, he's lighter, but he knows how to use leverage to his advantage.
                    Can;t - at any weight- see him as a liability on run downs (esp. if he's properly rested) and letting him rush the passer plays to his natural strengths.
                    Don't see Jeremy Thompson on this team next year.
                    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                    • #25
                      Film schmilm. The guy's a line backer, not a starting pitcher with a tick that gives away the curve.
                      "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                      • #26
                        Brad Jones started 36 games in college playing LB in the 3-4 system, it was no surprise to me that he would look my comfortable then Kampman has all season. Dude is kinda small for 3-4 LB but has great athleticism and ran a 4.5 at his pro day.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Shadow
                          I would rotate Kamp in with the DE's, and allow Jones to play OLB.
                          Yeah, he's lighter, but he knows how to use leverage to his advantage.
                          Can;t - at any weight- see him as a liability on run downs (esp. if he's properly rested) and letting him rush the passer plays to his natural strengths.
                          Don't see Jeremy Thompson on this team next year.
                          I don't understand why this couldn't be done. Jones is a talent and shouldn't be riding the bench.

                          Maybe the experts here could explain why Kampman can't play DE in a 3-4.
                          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
                            Originally posted by The Shadow
                            I would rotate Kamp in with the DE's, and allow Jones to play OLB.
                            Yeah, he's lighter, but he knows how to use leverage to his advantage.
                            Can;t - at any weight- see him as a liability on run downs (esp. if he's properly rested) and letting him rush the passer plays to his natural strengths.
                            Don't see Jeremy Thompson on this team next year.
                            I don't understand why this couldn't be done. Jones is a talent and shouldn't be riding the bench.

                            Maybe the experts here could explain why Kampman can't play DE in a 3-4.
                            Short answer, we have better DEs than Kampman already playing and don't need him in the DE rotation.

                            Medium answer, 3-4 DEs are asked to directly take on linemen much like a DT in a 4-3. Kampman is good against a tackle in space as a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLBer, but he would probably get washed out even as a 3-4 DE (even if he hadn't already lost weight).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027
                              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
                              Originally posted by The Shadow
                              I would rotate Kamp in with the DE's, and allow Jones to play OLB.
                              Yeah, he's lighter, but he knows how to use leverage to his advantage.
                              Can;t - at any weight- see him as a liability on run downs (esp. if he's properly rested) and letting him rush the passer plays to his natural strengths.
                              Don't see Jeremy Thompson on this team next year.
                              I don't understand why this couldn't be done. Jones is a talent and shouldn't be riding the bench.

                              Maybe the experts here could explain why Kampman can't play DE in a 3-4.
                              Short answer, we have better DEs than Kampman already playing and don't need him in the DE rotation.

                              Medium answer, 3-4 DEs are asked to directly take on linemen much like a DT in a 4-3. Kampman is good against a tackle in space as a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLBer, but he would probably get washed out even as a 3-4 DE (even if he hadn't already lost weight).
                              Fair enough. I really like Jones. He was all over the field Sunday. I hope he gets some playing time.
                              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                              • #30
                                Kampman also lost like 20 pounds to adjust to his new position so I doubt he could even play DE in the 3-4.

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