Guys That Need More Playing Time

[Maxie the Taxi]

Clark has a ton of speed. Witten isn't super fast, but it's a bit laughable to compare Havner to Witten. Lee is a lot better all around than Havner is, but give the guy credit. He's played LB most of his college and pro career. He's doing better than expected.

BTW, there are a lot of white TEs, so brandon is reaching quite a bit. Now, if he said Jordy Nelson reminded him of Kevin Walter, than you'd have something to go on.

I wasn't really thinking of Havner's blocking. I never watch the tight end block. I was thinking of his tenacity catching the ball and his good hands. Maybe after he improves on his blocking he'll be in a position to play more. But he does add something in the red zone.

[get louder at lambeau]

White? What does White have to do with anything?

Why else would you compare him to those two when both Clark and Witten have completely different games which Havner does not even come close too.

Maybe I'm just ignorant. I thought of those two guys as not big play speedsters, but ball control receivers. I suppose if I spent more time researching I could come up with better comparisons.

Assuming motives is always dangerous. With all due respect, jumping to a conclusion of racism is just plain dumb.

Just busting your balls man, wasn't trying to take a shot at you. Just saying Havner is nothing more than a poor man's Mike Vrabel, no where near the talent of 2 of the top 5 TE's in the league.

Also racist, because Vrabel is white. It'slike a KKK rally in here.

[Fritz]

How about Jarius Wynn for more playing time on passing downs? He showed some pass rushability in the preseason.

[Maxie the Taxi]

How about Jarius Wynn for more playing time on passing downs? He showed some pass rushability in the preseason.

I'd go along with that, though I haven't seen much of Wynn. Geez, this is shaping up as a hell of a good draft for TT...Raji, Mathews, Lang, Jones.

[Bretsky]

Somebody posted (maybe HW) that a few scouts noted Rice was better this year than Jennings. That surprised me a bit. I don't think Favre is making Rice; I think they both make each other better. I'd be recruiting Favre to come back if I was S Rice. If Favre comes back next year he's going to help Rice get a big fat contract [/b]