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  • No! Stop, Don't do it!! Oh crap.

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    I hope next season the Packers have a new guy in the booth advising the coach on the headset.

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  • #2
    Looks like Tramon is just a little bit late in trying to stop him. Kind of like on the touchdown to Roy Williams.

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    • #3
      Does anyone know who is up there advising MM on these stupid challenges?

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      • #4
        The ref is thinking "really, seriously?"

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        • #5
          Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

          I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hoosier
            Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
            Waldo posted a blog entry on this very topic: Waldo's Blog
            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hoosier
              Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

              I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
              Its not necessarily a bad idea. They were planning on calling a time-out anyway. Why not challenge it? They were up and it was unlikely that there would be a game changing call that they would need to challenge. The refs actually put the ball at the 1 yd line - I thought it should have been around the 1 ft. line - but that is tough to judge without a perfect camera angle. Personally, I thought he should have won the challenge and they reposition the ball at the 1 ft line. I am not sure if they have to specify what the challenge is 'See if it was a TD' if that limits the refs to checking that or if they were checking on ball placement.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cheesner
                Originally posted by hoosier
                Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

                I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
                Its not necessarily a bad idea. They were planning on calling a time-out anyway. Why not challenge it? They were up and it was unlikely that there would be a game changing call that they would need to challenge. The refs actually put the ball at the 1 yd line - I thought it should have been around the 1 ft. line - but that is tough to judge without a perfect camera angle. Personally, I thought he should have won the challenge and they reposition the ball at the 1 ft line. I am not sure if they have to specify what the challenge is 'See if it was a TD' if that limits the refs to checking that or if they were checking on ball placement.
                Cheese-

                You can't challenge the spot of the ball unless you would get (or lose) a 1st down or a touchdown by moving the spot of the ball. Moving the ball two feet closer to the endline was not a possible result from the challenge.
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • #9
                  I was able to freeze it right when his knee went down and I could clearly see that it was not a TD. If MM wanted a timeout, he could just call timeout.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by channtheman
                    I was able to freeze it right when his knee went down and I could clearly see that it was not a TD. If MM wanted a timeout, he could just call timeout.
                    ...because M3 has freeze frame replay on the sidelines...
                    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                    • #11
                      i hope we have a new head coach being advised by someone else in the booth.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by channtheman
                        I was able to freeze it right when his knee went down and I could clearly see that it was not a TD. If MM wanted a timeout, he could just call timeout.
                        Yeah, but if you take a timeout, you get 30 seconds. Challenge the play and you have time to run over to Starbucks...Only problem is that he wouldn't have the challenge left JUST IN CASE he needed it later...
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hoosier
                          Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

                          I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
                          Bachelor McCarthy worked 20 hours a day. Husband/Dad McCarthy likes to get home in time for some good home cookin--that gets in the way of the game prep...not to mention add about 40 lbs to the mid-section.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Willard
                            Originally posted by hoosier
                            Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

                            I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
                            Bachelor McCarthy worked 20 hours a day. Husband/Dad McCarthy likes to get home in time for some good home cookin--that gets in the way of the game prep...not to mention add about 40 lbs to the mid-section.

                            This actually sounds logical.

                            Are there any stats to backup team performance in correlation to McCarthy's coaching while he was single versus coaching after marriage?

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                            "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cheesner
                              Originally posted by hoosier
                              Hard to believe the officials weren't aware that McCarthy should have been penalized for that. And hard to believe that McCarthy wasted a challenge when Nelson was ruled down inside the Dallas 1-yard line on what was going to be, at the very worst, first and goal from the six inch line.

                              I am becoming less and less impressed by McCarthy's attention to detail every week. It's funny because during his first year he seemed efficient, professional and detail oriented in comparison with Sherman. Is this just a change in perception or has McCarthy really gone from running a tight ship to being incurably sloppy in just four years?
                              Its not necessarily a bad idea. They were planning on calling a time-out anyway. Why not challenge it? They were up and it was unlikely that there would be a game changing call that they would need to challenge. The refs actually put the ball at the 1 yd line - I thought it should have been around the 1 ft. line - but that is tough to judge without a perfect camera angle. Personally, I thought he should have won the challenge and they reposition the ball at the 1 ft line. I am not sure if they have to specify what the challenge is 'See if it was a TD' if that limits the refs to checking that or if they were checking on ball placement.
                              With both offenses struggling all day, it was well worth risking a timeout to challenge a possible score. Seven points in that game versus a TO? No contest.

                              Problem was that he got bad advice. With the camera angle with Jordy on the far side of the field, I thought he scored after that replay. But when they got goal-line camera involved, then it was clear he was going to lose the challenge. Either the coaches saw just the first angle, or ignored the other angles and made the call. At this point, I don't have a complaint.

                              The problem I have with the sequence is his explanation. he said the next playcall was going to go in late and might necessitate a timeout anyway. If this is true and not just a way of explaining a decision gone awry, then there are two possible scenarios, both damaging.

                              One, they were debating the challenge the whole time rather than a play call. The problem is that if you were debating it that long, you should have seen the second replay. Second, if the delay was incidental to the challenge and the timeout was coming, then you are blurring the line between clever and stupid; you are risking your last challenge on a complete gamble in a tight game.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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