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  • #16
    Originally posted by steve823
    Pickett is first then Jolly, but we should sign them both we should have plenty of room. Especially since most likely Harrell and Kampman will be gone and that free up a lot of space
    Cap space is fairly irrelevant considering how well the Packers manage it. Also, I don't remember what Harrell's is, but I think it isn't high (anymore).
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Smidgeon
      Originally posted by steve823
      Pickett is first then Jolly, but we should sign them both we should have plenty of room. Especially since most likely Harrell and Kampman will be gone and that free up a lot of space
      Cap space is fairly irrelevant considering how well the Packers manage it. Also, I don't remember what Harrell's is, but I think it isn't high (anymore).
      If I remember right, Harrell has a bonus coming due next year. The general consensus when he was placed on IR for the year was that it made sense to keep him around and see if he can get healthy. Don't know the timing of the bonus, or the amount, but I do know he has one coming due.
      Go PACK

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      • #18
        "Johnny Jolly: Cletidus Hunt or Vonnie Holliday?" - Tell me how many gold teeth he has and I'll give you an answer.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bossman641
          Originally posted by Smidgeon
          Originally posted by steve823
          Pickett is first then Jolly, but we should sign them both we should have plenty of room. Especially since most likely Harrell and Kampman will be gone and that free up a lot of space
          Cap space is fairly irrelevant considering how well the Packers manage it. Also, I don't remember what Harrell's is, but I think it isn't high (anymore).
          If I remember right, Harrell has a bonus coming due next year. The general consensus when he was placed on IR for the year was that it made sense to keep him around and see if he can get healthy. Don't know the timing of the bonus, or the amount, but I do know he has one coming due.
          Is that a bonus or a higher base salary? I think they can get him through training camp without much of a financial commitment. I could be wrong though.
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #20
            This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

            Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

            And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

            I don't know. This is one tough call.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz
              This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

              Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

              And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

              I don't know. This is one tough call.
              I think nothing will happen until his legal issues in Houston are cleared up.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                'Ole Cleedeeus is better den dat Jolly Holiday!



                Didn't he used to have some bling?
                Dats only wen Ize be gwan out for de night



                Didnt someone else used to post this image? Or have you change your name since back then mraynrand?
                They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sparkey
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

                  Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

                  And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

                  I don't know. This is one tough call.
                  I think nothing will happen until his legal issues in Houston are cleared up.
                  I really doubt much ever happens with that case. The Houston DA can't file the original charges. They were wildly overblown. The charges he can file are so minor, Jolly probably will get dismissed or he will cop to a non-suspension type charge like loitering or something.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KYPack
                    I really doubt much ever happens with that case. The Houston DA can't file the original charges. They were wildly overblown. The charges he can file are so minor, Jolly probably will get dismissed or he will cop to a non-suspension type charge like loitering or something.
                    Pretty much describes his play last year.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

                      Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

                      And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

                      I don't know. This is one tough call.
                      Let's be honest: if I got a big payday, I'd be planning my episode of Cribs too.
                      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Smidgeon
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

                        Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

                        And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

                        I don't know. This is one tough call.
                        Let's be honest: if I got a big payday, I'd be planning my episode of Cribs too.
                        Or planning something else...

                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mraynrand
                          Originally posted by Smidgeon
                          Originally posted by Fritz
                          This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

                          Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

                          And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

                          I don't know. This is one tough call.
                          Let's be honest: if I got a big payday, I'd be planning my episode of Cribs too.
                          Or planning something else...

                          Planning to start working in construction?
                          Planning on growing a long moustache?
                          Planning on growing long hair?
                          Planning on wearing solid colors?
                          Planning on speaking in a growly voice and saying "f*cking A" all the time?
                          Help me out here...
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #28
                            "Lawrence, what would you do if you had a million dollars?"
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              This would be a tough call to make for a GM. The dude looks good at times, really pretty darn good, but he also apparently has a reputation for being a bit of a loose cannon.

                              Who knows if a big payday will shut his motor off?

                              And I don't know that other players can do much. What are they going to do, beat him up? Use peer pressure? The guy will be planning his episode of cribs after he gets his new mansion, and someone will be telling him he has to play better or else?

                              I don't know. This is one tough call.
                              GB usually gives pretty cap-friendly contracts. If he sucks and has to go, we cut him. If there's doubt, I'd bet we see some performance accelerators in there as well. The real trick is what if he comes due in a cap-free year?
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                              • #30
                                My impression is that Jolly has played harder and for longer stretches than Hunt. Hunt had one big contract drive. Jolly played well in 07, won the starting job, and was hurt during the season. After the injury, he came back to start.

                                I think he is a safer bet. But I am not sure he has the same potential as Hunt had. So you would be paying for what you have seen, which this year has been pretty good.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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