Mike McCarthy: What Does it Take to Keep His Job in 2010?

[SnakeLH2006]

Lot's of anti-McFatty vibes lately around PackerRats. Snake is one of them yet used to be a MM fan. Oh how times have changed (watch his coaching show...fans and even Larry M rip him left and right for the shitty OL and needless penalties....MM seems like he doesn't care..."It's a work in progress. We need to shore that up. We'll get that fixed. Pad Level....ad nauseum"...he's a joke with tired ass cliches).

Personally, McMike has had his chances and looks lost week after week. Being the classly pro CW is, he gave his gameball to McMike last week in the locker room. Really? Dom Capers was far and away the coach of the game vs. the Cowboys. McMike didn't really coach well at all. He really blew some calls badly, as usual, and lost his challenge (a really bad one on his part, what was that about??) and lost another challenge later (cuz any coach or real fan knows you can't do it again if you lost your first one). Dude is clueless lately and getting worse. To be honest...we won that Cowboy game DESPITE McCarthy. Just atrochious in so many ways as a HC.

Snake would think being that we are pretty talented/young/ have a healthy cap/and a great young QB we would be able to attract a big-name winner for a coach in 2010 no problem. Cowher has been rumored for the past month. That would be great. Either way, McFatty has lost this team. 5-4. That's talent. His conservative play-calling and misdiagnosis of key-downs/distance drives me crazy game after game.

TT looks safe (given our CAP is really good, and he brings some talent to this roster with his drafts...although he really needs to sign a top guy anywhere for our OL...that's TT's biggest problem and a major one).

So how many wins does it take for McFatty to keep his job in 2010?

Snake voted 9-11 wins as a playoff wildcard with this talented team and a playoff win. I don't see how he keeps his job without at least a playoff win at 5-4 right now. There's no way he doesn't win a playoff game in 2009 and keeps his job...esp. with how poorly he executes game plans and reigns in this team, thus far. He's been pretty bad. I'd rather have Shermy at this point, than McFatty.

[SnakeLH2006]

Who said miss playoffs? No way McFatts keeps his job if we don't at least make the playoffs. That is not even close.

It's an option I put up....but no way McFatty keeps his job in 2010 if we don't make the playoffs. NO WAY. Please explain that scenario. Snake would love to hear it.

[Bretsky]

I think MM keep his job next year if the Packers are 8-8 or above
I won't argue if he should or not

TTT is not a bold movemaker overall and does not like conflict
I don't think he has the stones to let MM go this soon barring a huge meltdown

[retailguy]

not sure he gets canned at this point even with a meltdown.

[sheepshead]

marty mornhinweg's on the hot seat, no doubt. If we dont win a playoff game, I say he's gone. What's our contract hit with him at the end of this year?

[pbmax]

Meltdown would cost him. I am not sure if its playoffs or bust, a lot depends on Thompson's view of injuries versus production. Thompson's leash is not much longer than McCarthy's, so I would be surprised if there is not a threshold this year. And if he decides he needs a new coach, that coach will need to start soon.

I said a while back that they each had two years (this and next, 3 years into the new deals) and that the only thing that would shorten the tenure of either is if Thompson decides McCarthy can't get it done. If Thompson agrees with Waldo's take on the mishandling of the O line, then he could also insist on coaching changes.

[Fritz]

I think that an 8-8 or even a 9-7 record makes Thompson's job very, very difficult. Do you start over or do you draft offensive linemen and safeties by the dozens and try once more? At the least, I think if Thompson brings MM back after an 8-8 campaign, we'll see Campen gone, and maybe Slocum if the ST play like crap the rest of the year.

A ten win season gives MM another year, I believe. A seven win season, barring any more big injuries, might just get MM canned. It's the middle ground that's the toughest to figure.

[get louder at lambeau]

I don't think coaches with a winning record should get fired, regardless of how the payoffs shake out. 9-7 = 3 more wins than last year = progress and a winning record, and he keeps his job. 8-8 and he's on the bubble.

[Freak Out]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

[gbgary]

it'll take a superbowl win as far as i'm concerned...and then he'll be on probation.

[Fritz]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

That's a ridiculous statement.

[retailguy]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

That's a ridiculous statement.

It's probably true.

[PlantPage55]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

That's a ridiculous statement.

It's probably true.

oh Jesus Christ. Now who are the delusional ones?

[retailguy]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

That's a ridiculous statement.

It's probably true.

oh Jesus Christ. Now who are the delusional ones?

We'll see at the end of the year. I happen to believe that McCrappy got his "get out of jail free" card today with the injuries to Harris and Kampman.

We got the blue collar pittsburg guy - INDEFINITELY.

[gbgary]

As long as the guys heart is beating he is the HC here unless he quits.

That's a ridiculous statement.

It's probably true.

if it is then tt's head needs to go too.