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    Did a little more pot stirring in a thought provoking article today

    Noted twice in the past 5 years the Pack had a rough decision on draft day drafting one pick ahead of SF.

    They picked AJ Hawk over Vernon Davis
    They picked BJ Raji over Michael Crabtree

    Implied SF got the better of them on both decisions
    Noted GB probably would not have Jermichael Finley...but GB's offense would be near invincible with Davis, who seems developed, and Crabtree, who is receiving great reviews from scouts on his performance so far w/o hardly any training/practice
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    An argument for drafting the best player available? Hardly revolutionary.

    But its way premature to judge either SF headcase at this point. And Finley makes Davis a luxury.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      Davis said he was glad the Pack didn't draft him. Can anyone say he'd then sign and develop here as he did in SF? And by the way, his first two years were a waste.

      Hawk is not as bad as people think. He's actually a very, very solid linebacker.

      With the pick of Finley, I think it makes this debate moot.

      And after all the times people say the game is won and lost in the trenches, and after all the bitching about Thompson not using a high draft pick on a lineman of the offensive variety, now in the same breath we're going to say Thompson should've taken a wide receiver? No thanks. Raji is playing better and better and in this system is not going to get the chances to shine one on one as he would in other systems. He's fine. I'm glad the Pack took him instead of Crabtree.

      Oh, and how about that year that the Niners took one QB and the Packers too another, and SF got first choice? Shall we debate that while we're comparing San Fran and Green Bay's drafting the last few years?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pbmax
        An argument for drafting the best player available? Hardly revolutionary.

        But its way premature to judge either SF headcase at this point. And Finley makes Davis a luxury.

        Actually if they were both in GB Davis would make Finley a luxury IMO. He's one of the top TE's in the NFL this year with his attitude makeover
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fritz
          Davis said he was glad the Pack didn't draft him. Can anyone say he'd then sign and develop here as he did in SF? And by the way, his first two years were a waste.

          Hawk is not as bad as people think. He's actually a very, very solid linebacker.

          With the pick of Finley, I think it makes this debate moot.

          And after all the times people say the game is won and lost in the trenches, and after all the bitching about Thompson not using a high draft pick on a lineman of the offensive variety, now in the same breath we're going to say Thompson should've taken a wide receiver? No thanks. Raji is playing better and better and in this system is not going to get the chances to shine one on one as he would in other systems. He's fine. I'm glad the Pack took him instead of Crabtree.

          Oh, and how about that year that the Niners took one QB and the Packers too another, and SF got first choice? Shall we debate that while we're comparing San Fran and Green Bay's drafting the last few years?

          Davis didn't say that til after the draft and never gave an indication he didn't want to come here before the draft. He's an unreal talent; actually one might argue SF has done a poor job developing him. With that being said, I was on record many many times saying draft HAWK. With that said he's very average and also probably would do better in the 4-3.

          Playing devil's advocate, the year SF took a QB and Green Bay took a QB was the ideal example of how taking the BPA can work. Green Bay decided to buck that belief last year

          I've been critical of TT for doing a shitty job on the OL......but I've never focues on the need to use a high pick on one.........there is this other avenue

          called

          ....................sssshhhhhhhh
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Originally posted by pbmax
            An argument for drafting the best player available? Hardly revolutionary.

            But its way premature to judge either SF headcase at this point. And Finley makes Davis a luxury.

            Actually if they were both in GB Davis would make Finley a luxury IMO. He's one of the top TE's in the NFL this year with his attitude makeover
            Then Desmond Bishop would be your starting Buck ILB and the Packer run defense would be the poorer for it.

            Davis may turn out to be a All-Pro for a couple of seasons but for now:

            Hawk + Finley > Bishop + Davis

            This assumes Finley stays healthy.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              And why are we so sure that Crabtree was a better pick vs. Raji?

              Come on. It's way too early for that. And with the way we're protecting our QB, I think another WR would be the luxury.

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              • #8
                Just think how much better the 90's Packers would have been with ANY pick except Tony Mandarich.

                Look I'm a professional newspaper writer now too.
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #9
                  I liked Davis over Hawk, and I liked Raji over Crabtree. They'll all be productive.

                  Davis and Hawk both have warts. Raji and Crabtree both have big upside... that's the long and short of it.
                  wist

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                  • #10
                    If Shermy had kept Charles Lee, no one would be clamoring for Crabtree right now.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      I prefer the Packer picks.
                      No problem with Hawk over Davis or Raji over Crabtree,
                      And the pick of Finley is gravy,
                      Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zool
                        Just think how much better the 90's Packers would have been with ANY pick except Tony Mandarich.

                        Look I'm a professional newspaper writer now too.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fritz
                          If Shermy had kept Charles Lee, no one would be clamoring for Crabtree right now.
                          Didn't he keep getting Freeman stopped by the police? Or was that Charles Jordan?
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #14
                            Part of VD's attitude adjustment was only possible IMO because he has a coach like Singletary who will call him out and hold him accountable. Would M3 have done the same thing?
                            Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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                            • #15
                              Preferred Davis over Hawk. Preferred Crabtree over Raji.

                              Finley has a chance to be a very good player but needs to remain healthy.

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