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  • #16
    Originally posted by Fritz
    I got some love for Grant in my pocket.

    Re Grant, I thought he was looking better today than I've seen in a long time. He was shooting right through their D and frequently picked up extra yards. Hope he can hold on.....
    Is it really a halo or
    just a swelled head ?

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    • #17
      had a real good game today. actually he's been pretty darn good all year. the key for grant, as far as i'm concerned, is keeping running him forward. no running around the end type runs. they need to work him into the passing game more too.

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      • #18
        Grant also rarely fumbles which is huge and with AR rarely throwing picks we have to be amoung the best in the NFL for least turnovers on offense.

        BJack also looked very good today with some nice catches out of the backfield and pass blocking. Exactly what we need from him.

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        • #19
          Grants numbers from the last five games have been pretty damn good. The Minny game was really his only bad performance and he hardly got the ball enough to do anything anyways. It seems like it takes our running game a half season to get in gear. If Grant and the running game can keep up with production like this we'll be in good shape.

          27 - 148 - 5.5
          10 - 30 - 3.0
          21 - 96 - 4.6
          19 - 79 - 4.2
          21 - 129 - 6.1

          98 - 482 - 4.9
          GO PACK!!!!

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          • #20
            Re: Where's The Love For Grant?

            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi

            More cowbell!!!!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by PackerTimer
              Grants numbers from the last five games have been pretty damn good. The Minny game was really his only bad performance and he hardly got the ball enough to do anything anyways. It seems like it takes our running game a half season to get in gear. If Grant and the running game can keep up with production like this we'll be in good shape.

              27 - 148 - 5.5
              10 - 30 - 3.0
              21 - 96 - 4.6
              19 - 79 - 4.2
              21 - 129 - 6.1

              98 - 482 - 4.9
              Grant needs a good OL to run behind. He's as good as the line, but will never be special.

              True to form, the line runblocking has been improving the past several weeks. Pass blocking? Another story, but the run blocking has improved and grant, right with it.

              When is the last time you saw Grant make something out of nothing? He just isn't that type of runner. He needs help and hasn't had it.

              I'm not a grant fan, but he isn't the problem. It's the OL, and when they play well, he typically responds. He's good enough.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by retailguy
                When is the last time you saw Grant make something out of nothing? He just isn't that type of runner. He needs help and hasn't had it.
                Perhaps, but there was his first down run for the second first down of the Packers last drive. Philbin said it was blocked for a yard and Grant got 21 by bouncing it outside left. He is clearly not elite, but if he can do that once a game, it'll work.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pbmax
                  Originally posted by retailguy
                  When is the last time you saw Grant make something out of nothing? He just isn't that type of runner. He needs help and hasn't had it.
                  Perhaps, but there was his first down run for the second first down of the Packers last drive. Philbin said it was blocked for a yard and Grant got 21 by bouncing it outside left. He is clearly not elite, but if he can do that once a game, it'll work.
                  I agree with this. I guess I wasn't clear. I was not talking about a single play, I was talking about games. When was the last time Grant did well during the game when his line didn't? That was my point. He's good, when he gets good blocking.

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                  • #24
                    It's been said elsewhere that Batman is the best thing that could have happened to Grant. He's never been on a team with an experienced back like him. He's got wheels, he's got some power, and he's got some size, and is a decisive runner. At ND he didn't have another like him. In NY none were like him. Here in GB, same thing. Even though his coach played, still, Edgar was a different type of back. Green is (was) the same type of back as Grant. Green can show stuff to Grant on film and help him in ways that he's never had before out of teammates or coaches.

                    IMO there has been a huge change in Grant since Green was picked up. He is seeing it better. He has been harder to tackle. He is setting up his blocks better. And he's been laying a last lick.

                    I sent Grant a tweet congratulating him on his good day today.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      I got some love for Grant in my pocket.
                      What does Drew think about that, Fritz?

                      ----------------------------------------------

                      Anyway, Grant really looked pretty good today. He's definitely not an explosive game-breaker anymore that he was in 2007....but he sure has become effective grounding out the tough yards. Very steady....and it's rare Snake praises Grant. Pretty solid game for Grant again.
                      Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Waldo
                        It's been said elsewhere that Batman is the best thing that could have happened to Grant. He's never been on a team with an experienced back like him. He's got wheels, he's got some power, and he's got some size, and is a decisive runner. At ND he didn't have another like him. In NY none were like him. Here in GB, same thing. Even though his coach played, still, Edgar was a different type of back. Green is (was) the same type of back as Grant. Green can show stuff to Grant on film and help him in ways that he's never had before out of teammates or coaches.

                        IMO there has been a huge change in Grant since Green was picked up. He is seeing it better. He has been harder to tackle. He is setting up his blocks better. And he's been laying a last lick.

                        I sent Grant a tweet congratulating him on his good day today.
                        Grant wouldn't seem to have Green's feet or high leg action. Green was hard to grab onto as he ran with his pads well forward and picked his knees up high, leaving him like a bowling ball at any given point. Grant's longer strides leave him susceptible to being grabbed by an ankle or tripping on garbage.

                        I could, though, easily see Green showing Grant where the hole is. Green had great vision and Grant has sometimes followed blocking to nowhere.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          I've never really been unhappy with Grant. He's the type of back who will carry the load all the way to the Superbowl. I'm not looking for the Packers to replace him but I'd welcome an elusive speedy back with good hands to compliment Grant's game.
                          70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pbmax
                            Originally posted by Waldo
                            It's been said elsewhere that Batman is the best thing that could have happened to Grant. He's never been on a team with an experienced back like him. He's got wheels, he's got some power, and he's got some size, and is a decisive runner. At ND he didn't have another like him. In NY none were like him. Here in GB, same thing. Even though his coach played, still, Edgar was a different type of back. Green is (was) the same type of back as Grant. Green can show stuff to Grant on film and help him in ways that he's never had before out of teammates or coaches.

                            IMO there has been a huge change in Grant since Green was picked up. He is seeing it better. He has been harder to tackle. He is setting up his blocks better. And he's been laying a last lick.

                            I sent Grant a tweet congratulating him on his good day today.
                            Grant wouldn't seem to have Green's feet or high leg action. Green was hard to grab onto as he ran with his pads well forward and picked his knees up high, leaving him like a bowling ball at any given point. Grant's longer strides leave him susceptible to being grabbed by an ankle or tripping on garbage.

                            I could, though, easily see Green showing Grant where the hole is. Green had great vision and Grant has sometimes followed blocking to nowhere.
                            There are surely differences, and Green was the better back, but both are a little on the tall side for a RB (Grant is 6'1", Green is 6'0"), both are around 220 lb, both run (ran) between a 4.4 and 4.5 at top speed (Green had been clocked in the high 4.3's though, Green is (was) a little faster). Both are one cut decisive backs, neither was a jukey tackle breaker, instead preferring power.

                            Sure there are differences, Grant runs taller than Green, Green is more of a high stepper, etc..., but for Grant, who has known the smaller backs J. Jones, T. Barber, and B. Jackson (all of whom have a pretty similar style, shiftier than Grant), and the jumbo back B. Jacobs, and coach Bennet (more of a FB/RB hybrid (like a good Noah Herron)), nobody has really been a bigger 1 cut slicer back that doesn't have a lot of shiftyness, that relies on power more, yet has an open field gear to go with it. When looking at film and reading the blocking on the field, Green will see things much more similar to Grant than anybody he has played with or who has coached him.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              I've never really been unhappy with Grant. He's the type of back who will carry the load all the way to the Superbowl. I'm not looking for the Packers to replace him but I'd welcome an elusive speedy back with good hands to compliment Grant's game.
                              +1

                              Grant is a solid all-around back who rarely fumbles. He puts up solid numbers but would like to have a change of pace RB who can break the occasional long run.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Waldo
                                Originally posted by pbmax
                                Originally posted by Waldo
                                It's been said elsewhere that Batman is the best thing that could have happened to Grant. He's never been on a team with an experienced back like him. He's got wheels, he's got some power, and he's got some size, and is a decisive runner. At ND he didn't have another like him. In NY none were like him. Here in GB, same thing. Even though his coach played, still, Edgar was a different type of back. Green is (was) the same type of back as Grant. Green can show stuff to Grant on film and help him in ways that he's never had before out of teammates or coaches.

                                IMO there has been a huge change in Grant since Green was picked up. He is seeing it better. He has been harder to tackle. He is setting up his blocks better. And he's been laying a last lick.

                                I sent Grant a tweet congratulating him on his good day today.
                                Grant wouldn't seem to have Green's feet or high leg action. Green was hard to grab onto as he ran with his pads well forward and picked his knees up high, leaving him like a bowling ball at any given point. Grant's longer strides leave him susceptible to being grabbed by an ankle or tripping on garbage.

                                I could, though, easily see Green showing Grant where the hole is. Green had great vision and Grant has sometimes followed blocking to nowhere.
                                There are surely differences, and Green was the better back, but both are a little on the tall side for a RB (Grant is 6'1", Green is 6'0"), both are around 220 lb, both run (ran) between a 4.4 and 4.5 at top speed (Green had been clocked in the high 4.3's though, Green is (was) a little faster). Both are one cut decisive backs, neither was a jukey tackle breaker, instead preferring power.

                                Sure there are differences, Grant runs taller than Green, Green is more of a high stepper, etc..., but for Grant, who has known the smaller backs J. Jones, T. Barber, and B. Jackson (all of whom have a pretty similar style, shiftier than Grant), and the jumbo back B. Jacobs, and coach Bennet (more of a FB/RB hybrid (like a good Noah Herron)), nobody has really been a bigger 1 cut slicer back that doesn't have a lot of shiftyness, that relies on power more, yet has an open field gear to go with it. When looking at film and reading the blocking on the field, Green will see things much more similar to Grant than anybody he has played with or who has coached him.
                                Also Green has a all-pro O-line to run behind.

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