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    Is he the answer at LOLB? He had a pretty good game last night and went right around Oher for a beautiful KGB-in-his-prime edge bending sack. This position was high on my list of needs but if Clay is actually going to be a 8-12 sack/year guy then is Brad Jones our man? You've got to love his ability to cover too. Even if Jones won't be a pass rusher his speed in coverage allow us to zone blitz more than they could with Kampman.

    Plus the dudes a genius, Recall the PI article that talked about his degree in economics and being 4 classes away from another in astrophysics Said that if he weren't playing football he'd be in law school. At worst this guy is a defensive Samkon Gado for 2009.
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  • #2
    at this point his play is SOLID. Much more important, he seems to be assignment sure, which is very important in this scheme. My only concern is whether or not his play is because he is fresher than the guys he is going against.

    He should, however, get even better with experience.

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    • #3
      You and Mr. Jones, Mr. Jones, Mr. Jones....you got a thing....goin' on.
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      • #4
        I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.

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        • #5
          i'd say he's an improvement over kampman, but its still too early to tell if he's the longterm answer at olb

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          • #6
            Originally posted by channtheman
            I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
            Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by bobblehead
              Originally posted by channtheman
              I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
              Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
              Oher is 74 I believe, if you can go back and watch how is constantly playing both RT and LT. I think Brad Jones went around 71 on that play which would be Gaither.

              As for why they do that. No idea as I was wondering myself last night. You would think they keep him at LT all the time.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bobblehead
                Originally posted by channtheman
                I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
                Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
                They did it several times but I don't know the exact reasoning. But they obviously like their talent on the O Line better than some other offensive options as they kept bringing in more O lineman to overload the line. Two guys kept reporting as eligible everytime they got inside the 10. Cam Cameron is their O coordinator.

                One thing Larry McCarren noticed on the radio broadcast was that Oher would duck his head to get in a push on the pass rusher and both Jones and Matthews ole'd his head and shoulders and went right by him to hit the QB. That both did it to the same guy would seem to indicate it was covered and countered by their coaches. And that may mean Kevin Greene is a serious coach for the LBs. And that is a great thing.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by channtheman
                  Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Originally posted by channtheman
                  I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
                  Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
                  Oher is 74 I believe, if you can go back and watch how is constantly playing both RT and LT. I think Brad Jones went around 71 on that play which would be Gaither.

                  As for why they do that. No idea as I was wondering myself last night. You would think they keep him at LT all the time.
                  Yeah, I was all WTF?

                  MrsAynRand: "Where is Oher? He's the one from that book and movie"
                  MrAynrand: "Look over there, Oher plays left tackle"
                  MrsAynRand: "That doesn't look like him."
                  Mraynrand: "He's wearing a helmet and someone else's uniform."
                  DaughterAynRand: "Dad, you're full of shit - Oher switches from LT to RT and back all the time."
                  Mraynrand: "You are correct, and you are grounded."
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #10
                    I think Brad Jones is a keeper. He's a guy who's going to be sufficiently high on your depth chart at LOLB that he gets playing time. He's probably a guy that you're always looking to upgrade on, but the kid really does understand what his responsibilities are and what the defense is all about, so we could certainly do both for the time being.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lurker64
                      I think Brad Jones is a keeper. He's a guy who's going to be sufficiently high on your depth chart at LOLB that he gets playing time. He's probably a guy that you're always looking to upgrade on, but the kid really does understand what his responsibilities are and what the defense is all about, so we could certainly do both for the time being.
                      You hit the nail on the head IMO!

                      He's that guy you're always trying to upgrade but he keeps working his ass off -- and being extremely smart -- and you just can't get him off the field, he keeps making decent plays (and not making stupid ones). Plus with the coaching we have and Pitt's ability (somehow this is relevant heh) to make unknowns into LB superstars, we can definitely expect him to reach his ceiling... however high (or low) that might be. Either way, he's in the best situation he could probably be in as a young professional. This defense definitely plays to his strengths.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Originally posted by channtheman
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        Originally posted by channtheman
                        I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
                        Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
                        Oher is 74 I believe, if you can go back and watch how is constantly playing both RT and LT. I think Brad Jones went around 71 on that play which would be Gaither.

                        As for why they do that. No idea as I was wondering myself last night. You would think they keep him at LT all the time.
                        Yeah, I was all WTF?

                        MrsAynRand: "Where is Oher? He's the one from that book and movie"
                        MrAynrand: "Look over there, Oher plays left tackle"
                        MrsAynRand: "That doesn't look like him."
                        Mraynrand: "He's wearing a helmet and someone else's uniform."
                        DaughterAynRand: "Dad, you're full of shit - Oher switches from LT to RT and back all the time."
                        Mraynrand: "You are correct, and you are grounded."
                        Its good you spend that kind of quality time with your family Rand.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by channtheman
                          Originally posted by bobblehead
                          Originally posted by channtheman
                          I'm pretty sure he went around Gaither on that sack. The Ravens switch Oher from LT to RT and vice versa a lot.
                          Seriously?? Why on earth would they do that? Not questioning your knowledge as I have none on the subject, but that would seem pretty foolish unless an injury forced it.
                          Oher is 74 I believe, if you can go back and watch how is constantly playing both RT and LT. I think Brad Jones went around 71 on that play which would be Gaither.

                          As for why they do that. No idea as I was wondering myself last night. You would think they keep him at LT all the time.
                          Jones went around #74.

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                          • #14
                            I thought the announcers said they pulled one of the tackles over to the other side to create an unbalanced line, or some sort of extra lineman run package. Whatever it was, it didn't do much for them.
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                            • #15
                              They did move Oher around RT & LT, but Jones did beat Oher #74 on that play...plus Jones came around on the defensive left, or the offensive Right side...and Oher was back at RT for that.
                              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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