Jolly

[Zool]

Too bad it didn't happen in Minnesota. Drug possession isn't illegal there.

Drug use isn't illegal there.

Drug use? I'm not sure that's even a crime anymore. There have been a lot of changes.

I'll take a bloody mary, a steak sandwich......and a steak sandwich.

In the court ruling US vs. Fishbine, a man subjected to potential incineration while wearing another man's suit is entitled to $10,000 worth of airline tickets. It's an obscure ruling, but a very important one to me.

I'll have a glass of hot fat. Oh and bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia.

[mission]

200 milligrams = 0.00705479239 ounces

200 grams = 7.054 ounces

200 grams would be about a bottle and a half of lean. About $200 on the street.

200 mg's would be pennies of codeine. Nothing.

Somewhere this math is just not adding up. You usually put 1-2 fl oz in with your sprite and mix it up per (double) styrofoam cup.

200 grams sounds about right. Enough for a couple guys to have a fun night but definitely not an overly dangerous amount and not enough for anyone to assume he's out there "selling it".

Strange.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm not sure why Ty thinks SC is factually inaccurate unless there's something about the basketball player story that SC got wrong.

I think it works like this (subject to Skinbasket review):

If a jury finds you not guilty of doing x, then you can't be retried for doing x by the same sovereign.

If a jury hangs, without finding you guilty or not guilty, then the sovereign can re-try you (good friggin' luck).

Here, as others have noted, there is no double jeopardy issue because Jolly never went to trial.

But some prosecutor is sure looking to make a name for himself.

Yes. Scott got it wrong.

Jayson Williams was put on trial with several different charges. They jury found him not guilty on some,but was deadlocked on reckless manslaughter (or something like that). Deadlocked means they never reached a conclusion....just a mistrial would result in the same situation.

Williams was/is going to be in court on that charge. So, it is far from double jeopardy.

I still don't see what Scott had wrong. You explanation does not identify any error in what he stated, based on my understanding of what he stated. In fact, his statement and your "explanation" seem to be consistent based on the case. You seem to be picking a fight that isn't there.

Scott said he was found not guilty...and maybe it was his lack of clarification that confused me, but making a statement like that implies that no other verdicts were found or not found.

The way i read it was you can be found not guilty..and still be brought back to trial. That is factually incorrect unless you state that a charge against you wasn't found not guilty.

[Patler]

Scott said he was found not guilty...and maybe it was his lack of clarification that confused me, but making a statement like that implies that no other verdicts were found or not found.

The way i read it was you can be found not guilty..and still be brought back to trial. That is factually incorrect unless you state that a charge against you wasn't found not guilty.

Scott said that? Where? I think he said just the opposite
To review:

Double jeopardy?

I think you have to be go to trail twice for it to be double jeopardy.

You can go to trial twice like the NBA dude who shot that driver guy. You can't be found not guilty and then be re-tried. The Skinbasket should be able to explain this.

[pbmax]

There's one change, the amount is now 200 milligrams, not 200 grams. How 200 milligrams is worth 20 years, I have no idea.

Its a distribution issue. Two straws, one cup.

[pbmax]

You cannot be retried on the same charge. The "alleged" act is not covered by the protection of double jeopardy, only being subjected to the same criminal charge.

[mission]

There's one change, the amount is now 200 milligrams, not 200 grams. How 200 milligrams is worth 20 years, I have no idea.

Its a distribution issue. Two straws, one cup.

[Fritz]

200 milligrams = 0.00705479239 ounces

200 grams = 7.054 ounces

200 grams would be about a bottle and a half of lean. About $200 on the street.

200 mg's would be pennies of codeine. Nothing.

Somewhere this math is just not adding up. You usually put 1-2 fl oz in with your sprite and mix it up per (double) styrofoam cup.

200 grams sounds about right. Enough for a couple guys to have a fun night but definitely not an overly dangerous amount and not enough for anyone to assume he's out there "selling it".

Strange.

Man, you must have done a lot of research on the web to learn all this!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Scott said he was found not guilty...and maybe it was his lack of clarification that confused me, but making a statement like that implies that no other verdicts were found or not found.

The way i read it was you can be found not guilty..and still be brought back to trial. That is factually incorrect unless you state that a charge against you wasn't found not guilty.

Scott said that? Where? I think he said just the opposite
To review:

Double jeopardy?

I think you have to be go to trail twice for it to be double jeopardy.

You can go to trial twice like the NBA dude who shot that driver guy. You can't be found not guilty and then be re-tried. The Skinbasket should be able to explain this.

Misread on my part.

Though, hardly trying to pick a fight.

Forget to take your metamucil?

[mission]

200 milligrams = 0.00705479239 ounces

200 grams = 7.054 ounces

200 grams would be about a bottle and a half of lean. About $200 on the street.

200 mg's would be pennies of codeine. Nothing.

Somewhere this math is just not adding up. You usually put 1-2 fl oz in with your sprite and mix it up per (double) styrofoam cup.

200 grams sounds about right. Enough for a couple guys to have a fun night but definitely not an overly dangerous amount and not enough for anyone to assume he's out there "selling it".

Strange.

Man, you must have done a lot of research on the web to learn all this!

The first two lines I knew.

Everything after I had to look up


(or was it the other way around?)

[Fritz]

I find Packerrats to be an educational website.

[Patler]

Scott said he was found not guilty...and maybe it was his lack of clarification that confused me, but making a statement like that implies that no other verdicts were found or not found.

The way i read it was you can be found not guilty..and still be brought back to trial. That is factually incorrect unless you state that a charge against you wasn't found not guilty.

Scott said that? Where? I think he said just the opposite
To review:

Double jeopardy?

I think you have to be go to trail twice for it to be double jeopardy.

You can go to trial twice like the NBA dude who shot that driver guy. You can't be found not guilty and then be re-tried. The Skinbasket should be able to explain this.

Misread on my part.

Though, hardly trying to pick a fight.

Forget to take your metamucil?

Just trying to understand.

[MadScientist]

200 milligrams = 0.00705479239 ounces

200 grams = 7.054 ounces

200 grams would be about a bottle and a half of lean. About $200 on the street.

200 mg's would be pennies of codeine. Nothing.

Somewhere this math is just not adding up. You usually put 1-2 fl oz in with your sprite and mix it up per (double) styrofoam cup.

200 grams sounds about right. Enough for a couple guys to have a fun night but definitely not an overly dangerous amount and not enough for anyone to assume he's out there "selling it".

Strange.

Man, you must have done a lot of research on the web to learn all this!

The first two lines I knew.

Everything after I had to look up


(or was it the other way around?)

200 mg of codine is the amount in ~3.5 oz of syrup.
200 g would be enough for ~30 gallons of syrup (and would provide a strong case for intent to distribute)

[pbmax]

200 milligrams = 0.00705479239 ounces

200 grams = 7.054 ounces

200 grams would be about a bottle and a half of lean. About $200 on the street.

200 mg's would be pennies of codeine. Nothing.

Somewhere this math is just not adding up. You usually put 1-2 fl oz in with your sprite and mix it up per (double) styrofoam cup.

200 grams sounds about right. Enough for a couple guys to have a fun night but definitely not an overly dangerous amount and not enough for anyone to assume he's out there "selling it".

Strange.

Man, you must have done a lot of research on the web to learn all this!

The first two lines I knew.

Everything after I had to look up


(or was it the other way around?)

200 mg of codine is the amount in ~3.5 oz of syrup.
200 g would be enough for ~30 gallons of syrup (and would provide a strong case for intent to distribute)

That was my understanding of the misunderstanding about the amounts. In the original charging paperwork, the 200 grams mentioned seemed like an extreme amount of codeine to have for even four people. But it seemed a reasonable amount of "codeine cough syrup" to add to drinks.

Its seems as if the new charges are more clear and the 200 mg is the actual measure of codeine, minus its "syrup".

[swede]

Isn't this kind of case where a judge--in the middle of a day when he's heard pre-trial motions on murders, assaults, rapes, and drug busts involving tens of thousands of dollars worth of crack--calls the prosecutor forward and says, "ARE...YOU...KIDDING...ME!? A bottle of cough syrup? Plea this out or drop it!"