Chris henry suffers life threatening injuries

[Badgerinmaine]

Are they going to charge her?

I haven't heard anything yet, but the fact that the police homicide team is investigating suggests they might.

[Scott Campbell]

Are they going to charge her?

I haven't heard anything yet, but the fact that the police homicide team is investigating suggests they might.

If she knew he was back there, I'm guessing manslaughter.

[Scott Campbell]

I guess I don't know how to explain this, so it would make sense to you "normal people" out there... I've started a couple of posts on this thread and ultimately decided I didn't know what to say - I still don't.

For someone in that much pain... in a way, I'm happy for him that's it's over; and, even in saying that, I know most you won't understand.

Wist, are you reading more into this situation that we've read? I can't judge that he was a tortured soul, in constant emotional pain. All I've read is that he lost control during a heated argument, and made a snap decision that cost him his life. Now his kids will grow up fatherless. And he may have contributed to their mother doing jail time on his way out.

Maybe he's a guy that never could have pulled it together. Or maybe he could have. His teammates and the Bengals front office sure sound like they were betting on him making it. But now we'll never know - because of this brief moment of extreme stupidity.

[wist43]

I guess I don't know how to explain this, so it would make sense to you "normal people" out there... I've started a couple of posts on this thread and ultimately decided I didn't know what to say - I still don't.

For someone in that much pain... in a way, I'm happy for him that's it's over; and, even in saying that, I know most you won't understand.

Wist, are you reading more into this situation that we've read? I can't judge that he was a tortured soul, in constant emotional pain. All I've read is that he lost control during a heated argument, and made a snap decision that cost him his life. Now his kids will grow up fatherless. And he may have contributed to their mother doing jail time on his way out.

Maybe he's a guy that never could have pulled it together. Or maybe he could have. His teammates and the Bengals front office sure sound like they were betting on him making it. But now we'll never know - because of this brief moment of extreme stupidity.

It is true many people overcome dysfunctional upbringing... but it's not easy. Henry just seemed destined for this kind of end.

How he died was not simply the result of a "snap decision", but rather the culmination of a lifetime (albeit a short lifetime, 26 years) of dysfunction and emotional distress.

Unfortunately for me, I've been around far too much of this type of behavior... some people can pull it together and at least function well enough to get on with their lives in a productive way; others stay alive by coping thru drugs and alcohol; others end up in jail, commit suicide, or meet some other ignominious end.

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

[Scott Campbell]

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

Totally agreed. Though it's a lot easier if you don't jump out of the back of speeding pickup trucks.

[retailguy]

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

Wist - what do you know about his "formative" years that I don't? I haven't read anything that suggests he got into trouble before his 2nd year of college.

While what you're saying is likely true, no one has ever talked about "trouble" before college. I've seen "humble beginnings" referred to, but never "disfunctional" or anything like that.

Clearly this was a kid that had trouble growing up, but I don't see anything that suggests it was because of a bad upbringing.

Can you elaborate?

[Badgerinmaine]

If she knew he was back there, I'm guessing manslaughter.

I think that's a good guess. I think she would have known because he was supposedly banging on her back window. On the other hand, a witness heard him say that he would jump from the truck and kill himself if she did not come back, so if he really did jump, that might lessen her potential penalty.

[wist43]

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

Wist - what do you know about his "formative" years that I don't? I haven't read anything that suggests he got into trouble before his 2nd year of college.

While what you're saying is likely true, no one has ever talked about "trouble" before college. I've seen "humble beginnings" referred to, but never "disfunctional" or anything like that.

Clearly this was a kid that had trouble growing up, but I don't see anything that suggests it was because of a bad upbringing.

Can you elaborate?

I don't know anything about his upbringing... for all I know, he came from a great family, and he went off track on his own, which does happen; but that isn't likely.

When you've lived around dysfunction and seen the psychological pain inflicted on children, and how that manifests itself thru adolescence and into adulthood, the patterns are readily apparent. Chris Henry exhibited all of those traits.

As for anyones upbringing... it's foundational to who we are as a person. It is why divorce is such a destructive social force. The adults may go their merry way, but for a child whose emotions, psychological makeup, and brain is still developing, it could mean a life long sentence of dysfunction, disassociation, emotional confusion, etc...

Most people find a way to cope, and go on with their lives, but some people can never pull it together, regardless of how hard they try, or how much help they receive.

[GrnBay007]

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

Wist - what do you know about his "formative" years that I don't? I haven't read anything that suggests he got into trouble before his 2nd year of college.

While what you're saying is likely true, no one has ever talked about "trouble" before college. I've seen "humble beginnings" referred to, but never "disfunctional" or anything like that.

Clearly this was a kid that had trouble growing up, but I don't see anything that suggests it was because of a bad upbringing.

Can you elaborate?

I don't know anything about his upbringing... for all I know, he came from a great family, and he went off track on his own, which does happen; but that isn't likely.

When you've lived around dysfunction and seen the psychological pain inflicted on children, and how that manifests itself thru adolescence and into adulthood, the patterns are readily apparent. Chris Henry exhibited all of those traits.

As for anyones upbringing... it's foundational to who we are as a person. It is why divorce is such a destructive social force. The adults may go their merry way, but for a child whose emotions, psychological makeup, and brain is still developing, it could mean a life long sentence of dysfunction, disassociation, emotional confusion, etc...

Most people find a way to cope, and go on with their lives, but some people can never pull it together, regardless of how hard they try, or how much help they receive.

I get what you are saying Wist. And even looking outside the whole upbringing thing, you may have mental health issues brought on by alcohol and drug use. Either way....until you walk in someones shoes.....

And really, is it fair to say the girlfriend is psycho? There are only 2 people that will ever know the whole truth...and one is dead. Maybe she was getting the shit kicked out of her and decided enough was enough. Probably didn't think it would end the way it did but once chaos and emotions kick in crazy stuff happens.

[KYPack]

I guess my point would be that it's harder to outrun a bad upbringing or trauma in ones formative years than most people realize.

Wist - what do you know about his "formative" years that I don't? I haven't read anything that suggests he got into trouble before his 2nd year of college.

While what you're saying is likely true, no one has ever talked about "trouble" before college. I've seen "humble beginnings" referred to, but never "disfunctional" or anything like that.

Clearly this was a kid that had trouble growing up, but I don't see anything that suggests it was because of a bad upbringing.

Can you elaborate?

I don't know anything about his upbringing... for all I know, he came from a great family, and he went off track on his own, which does happen; but that isn't likely.

When you've lived around dysfunction and seen the psychological pain inflicted on children, and how that manifests itself thru adolescence and into adulthood, the patterns are readily apparent. Chris Henry exhibited all of those traits.

As for anyones upbringing... it's foundational to who we are as a person. It is why divorce is such a destructive social force. The adults may go their merry way, but for a child whose emotions, psychological makeup, and brain is still developing, it could mean a life long sentence of dysfunction, disassociation, emotional confusion, etc...

Most people find a way to cope, and go on with their lives, but some people can never pull it together, regardless of how hard they try, or how much help they receive.

I get what you are saying Wist. And even looking outside the whole upbringing thing, you may have mental health issues brought on by alcohol and drug use. Either way....until you walk in someones shoes.....

And really, is it fair to say the girlfriend is psycho? There are only 2 people that will ever know the whole truth...and one is dead. Maybe she was getting the shit kicked out of her and decided enough was enough. Probably didn't think it would end the way it did but once chaos and emotions kick in crazy stuff happens.

From what I heard, she was very mellow. Henry hit the league as a very young 21. The boys all called him "Slim". He was a very quiet guy that partied WAY too hard when he was young. He was cruising around town with a car full of under-age prostitutes, smoking blunts. After he got busted about 5 times & suspended & shit, he finally calmed down. If he would've stayed as wild as he started, he would have been dead before now.

Henry was from New Orleans and had to rid himself of some of his homies that came up to live with him after Katrina.

So...he calmed down 95%, but that remaining 5% wild still got him killed.

It's too bad. I don't think he was beating on Lena, they were just arguing and he did something crazy.

Again

For the last time.