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  • #1

    Good Draft Picks since 2005

    Bold = Impact players
    Underline = Solid Starter
    Italics = Solid Backup, wanna replace starter

    Aaron Rodgers
    Nick Collins
    Brady Poppinga

    Greg Jennings
    Jason Spitz
    Johny Jolly
    AJ Hawk
    Darryn Colledge

    Will Blackmon (returner)

    Mason Crosby
    Korey Hall
    James Jones

    Brandon Jackson
    Desmond Bishop
    Allen Barbre

    Jermichael Finley

    Jordy Nelson
    Josh Sitton

    Matt Flynn
    Brett Swain
    Jeremy Thompson

    Clay Matthews
    BJ Raji

    TJ Lang
    Brad Jones

    Quinn Johnson
    Jarius Wynn
    Brandon Underwood



    By my count, we have about 28 players that belong in the NFL that we drafted in the last 5 drafts or about 6 per year. Most teams only get 8 draft picks per year, so I think we're doing pretty good just looking at quantity of young talent that should be here for a while.

    6 have shown signs of being impact players with the possibility of more emerging as these draft classes develop. That's about 1 impact player per year (not bad and honestly not even complete).

    17 have either proven or shown strong signs of being solid starters in the NFL. Considering there are only 22 starting positions on offense and defense, that's not a bad number if you're also sprinkling in undrafted players like Tramon, resigning your own like Barnett and Jenkins, trading for players like Grant and picking up occasional UFA's like Woodson, Pickett or Chillar.



    Clearly the present is bright, but I'd argue the future is brighter. There may not be a cap, but most teams are functioning under a budget and the new rules allow teams to keep their players longer (giving leverage to sign their own at fair prices). I'd argue that we have a lot more money to spend over the next few years. I'd argue that a lot of our players, if we choose to keep them, will only get better in the primes of their careers. I'd argue that Ted Thompson has shown he can draft pretty well so new talent will continue to be added.

    I'd say this is about what many of us envisioned 4 or 5 years ago when we heard Ted Thompson speak and learned about his philosophy.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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  • #2
    And you can say, "we're losing Woodson, Clifton, Driver and Tausher"


    Well, don't forget, Thompson has brought in guys like Woodson, Rodgers, Collins, Sitton, Raji, Spitz, Finley and others. . . . It's not like he doesn't have a history of bringing in talent.

    I'd argue Thompson brings in talent faster than we're going to lose it over the next 3-5 years.

    Certainly an argument can be made to counter my belief and that's OK. We can state opinions and see who's opinions can stand the test of time. I've had some that don't and some that do, but Thompson and the overall direction of the Packers, I guess, has been my core issue so it's nice to see it developing like I thought it might.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #3
      One more thing to consider:

      This is 5 years after the Packers aged off a cliff, lost all of their talent and pretty much rebuilt with almost no solid core of veteran players.


      In 5 more years, the core of veterans is going to be the ones Thompson chooses to keep of these 28 (along with others like Tramon, Bigby, and others). Guys like Rodgers, Jennings, Finley, Sitton, Raji, Matthews, Spitz, etc. . . These are going to be the new veteran core. I have a feeling the new veteran core is going to be richer and more impressive than the 6 or 7 guys Sherman left 5 years ago.

      And all of the new talent Thompson brings in over the next few years isn't going to be added to junk, it's going to be added to something that's already really good.

      I've argued and still believe that Thompson's philosophy was going to have an accumulating effect. I believe that as much now as I did the first time I argued it 4 years ago and probably more. It looks really good, honestly.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #4
        And many were on this boat, but there were some extreme Thompson haters that would not back off hating him and thinkign he was here to ruin the Packers.

        Those posters, for the most part, aren't the type with integrity so I don't expect an, "I was wrong" from too many, but really, that's about what should be said.

        If not now, in the next 5 years, when I believe the Packers will prove to be an elite team in the NFL, you'd think it should be expected.

        Probably won't happen though.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          And many were on this boat, but there were some extreme Thompson haters that would not back off hating him and thinkign he was here to ruin the Packers.

          Those posters, for the most part, aren't the type with integrity so I don't expect an, "I was wrong" from too many, but really, that's about what should be said.

          If not now, in the next 5 years, when I believe the Packers will prove to be an elite team in the NFL, you'd think it should be expected.

          Probably won't happen though.
          Just curious. If it doesn't work, will you admit you were wrong?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bbbffl66
            Just curious. If it doesn't work, will you admit you were wrong?
            He won't have to, when we win a couple playoff games this very year.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bbbffl66

              Just curious. If it doesn't work, will you admit you were wrong?
              Always do. It's respecting the game.


              But "the Packers being the laughing stock of the NFL when Brett Favre left because he carried this team" and "what actually happened" seem like two different things.

              I see the signs of this team being pointed in the right direction. I think it's abundantly clear, but if it turns out that it's not the case, sure, I'll be here giving props to those I argued hardest with.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PlantPage55
                Originally posted by bbbffl66
                Just curious. If it doesn't work, will you admit you were wrong?
                He won't have to, when we win a couple playoff games this very year.
                Works for me!

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                • #9
                  Hawk's not an impact player?
                  Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                  • #10
                    Hawk was basically benched earlier this year and has not been part of the regular nickel package until recently. I'm not sure what Justin Harrell's definition of an "impact player" is, but I think I know what a non-impact player is when I see it!

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                    • #11
                      I think you can italicize Daryn Colledge.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Bold Josh Sitton, who's the top-rated pass-blocking guard in the NFL and #6 overall, according to Pro Football Focus.
                        Oops
                        http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

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                        • #13
                          Vince -- interesting rankings. But I do call bullshit on a ranking system that has Colledge bettering Steve Hutchinson.

                          Hutch is the second best guard in the league at pass blocking, according to these rankings, but he's near the bottom on run blocking. The times I've seen him, he's pretty dang good at run blocking. So unless Ras or some of the other MN posters say it's true, he sucks at run blocking this year, then I have to question these rankings big time.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Noodle
                            Vince -- interesting rankings. But I do call bullshit on a ranking system that has Colledge bettering Steve Hutchinson.

                            Hutch is the second best guard in the league at pass blocking, according to these rankings, but he's near the bottom on run blocking. The times I've seen him, he's pretty dang good at run blocking. So unless Ras or some of the other MN posters say it's true, he sucks at run blocking this year, then I have to question these rankings big time.
                            I don't know Noodle. You have AP who has to be a top 2 RB in the league and he only has 3 100+ yard rushing games. He's had 4 games that he hasn't even reached 70 yards. 269 att 1,200 y 4.5 ypc.

                            Ryan Grant 247 att 1,068 y 4.3 ypc, similar numbers for a back with nowhere near the talent of AP

                            Chris Johnson 272 att 1,626 y 6.0 ypc, similar talent outstanding stats
                            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                            -Tim Harmston

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                            • #15
                              A lot of scouts think Hutcinson dropped off last year and has dropped off even more this year. AP's low yards/carry (for him) might attest to that.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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