Steelers are -2?

[KYPack]

Uncle Ty has hit some nails on the head. The Steelers are a passing team that doesn't throw the ball well and has dinged-up QB's.

Troy P is such a huge difference maker, his absence further handicaps the Black and Gold.

If this was in Wi, the Pack would win by ten. In the Burgh, it's a coin flip.

[MJZiggy]

I wonder if the Pittsburgh fans are shoveling out the stadium to get ready for the game...(if they are they need to come and do my driveway)

[Maxie the Taxi]

If we can't do that I have a feeling there will be a lot of MM bashing in here again because we'll be just another team hoping we don't blow our chance to get into the playoffs

I bashed MM after the Tampa game for good reason.

He allowed his team to become complacent. His playcalling was deficient. He had foresaken the running game. The team seemed rudderless.

If the team goes into Pittsburgh and exhibits the same behavior, yes I'll bash McStubby for it. He'll deserve it.

On the other hand, if the team battles hard and smart and gets beat by the better team or a ball that doesn't bounce their way, I'll shut up.

Right now I think the better team is the Packers...

IF their special teams don't give up a score or a ton of field position; and

IF a swarming Steeler defense doesn't get to Arod; and

IF the Packers don't get a turnover or two.

Pittsburgh is the top Rushing defense in the league, but if McStubby abandons the run and has Arod in the shot gun all day, the Packers will lose no matter how good the Packers' defense performs.

[3irty1]

and they're the champs

Disagree. Pittsburgh was the defending champs.

In my mind Football works like wrestling in that you must defend your title every week. So...

Pittsburgh lost its title to Chicago in week two, Chicago lost it to Atlanta week six, who lost it to Dallas the next week, who in turn lost it to us in week 10. We haven't lost since!

I say we are the defending champs!

[MJZiggy]

and they're the champs

Disagree. Pittsburgh was the defending champs.

In my mind Football works like wrestling in that you must defend your title every week. So...

Pittsburgh lost its title to Chicago in week two, Chicago lost it to Atlanta week six, who lost it to Dallas the next week, who in turn lost it to us in week 10. We haven't lost since!

I say we are the defending champs!

I like your logic...

[Fritz]

reputation.

I remember when the Packers beat the Steelers on Xmas Eve, 1995. I was listening to the game at work, sorting cans at the IGA. When they won that game, I felt that they had arrived as an elite team.

I wouldn't feel the same if they beat the Steelers this year.

I remember that game very well. I was listening to it on the radio (it was a national radio game) while I wrapped Christmas presents. I could hardly cut the wrapping paper because I was so worked up about the game.

And even though the Packers won, I didn't really feel great about it, because Yancy Thigpen dropped a wide-open, game-winning touchdown pass. Apparently no Packer defender was within five yards of the guy, the pass was on the money...and he dropped it.

[ThunderDan]

and they're the champs

Disagree. Pittsburgh was the defending champs.

In my mind Football works like wrestling in that you must defend your title every week. So...

Pittsburgh lost its title to Chicago in week two, Chicago lost it to Atlanta week six, who lost it to Dallas the next week, who in turn lost it to us in week 10. We haven't lost since!

I say we are the defending champs!

That's some good $hit!

[Guiness]

I bashed MM after the Tampa game for good reason.

He allowed his team to become complacent. His playcalling was deficient. He had foresaken the running game. The team seemed rudderless.

If the team goes into Pittsburgh and exhibits the same behavior, yes I'll bash McStubby for it. He'll deserve it.

On the other hand, if the team battles hard and smart and gets beat by the better team or a ball that doesn't bounce their way, I'll shut up.

Right now I think the better team is the Packers...

IF their special teams don't give up a score or a ton of field position; and

IF a swarming Steeler defense doesn't get to Arod; and

IF the Packers don't get a turnover or two.

Pittsburgh is the top Rushing defense in the league, but if McStubby abandons the run and has Arod in the shot gun all day, the Packers will lose no matter how good the Packers' defense performs.

Agree with you 100%.

After the Tampa game, I wasn't sure MM was the guy we wanted as our coach whatsoever. To lose that game, with such a talent gap, etc, was inexcusable. I still think it is, and still have reservations. The game against Chicago, despite being a win, did little to alleviate that. In the end, we overwhelmed them, but it shouldn't have been a game going into the 4th quarter.

He has, however, found winning ways with the current streak so obviously I'm not screaming anymore. He should be able to go into Pittsburgh and take care of business. I don't buy the 'if the swarming defense doesn't get to Arod' because if they do, I'd chalk that up to poor play calling. If the defense appears to be 'swarming' it's because we haven't kept them honest.

[ThunderDan]

and they're the champs

Disagree. Pittsburgh was the defending champs.

In my mind Football works like wrestling in that you must defend your title every week. So...

Pittsburgh lost its title to Chicago in week two, Chicago lost it to Atlanta week six, who lost it to Dallas the next week, who in turn lost it to us in week 10. We haven't lost since!

I say we are the defending champs!

I guess after the game Pittsburg is the defending champs again.

[ThunderDan]

Re: Steelers are -2?

The Steelers are -2 as of today. What is the reasoning given they are supposed to be without the Long Hair and Kemoiatu (sp)(gaurd). Any thoughts?

Put the kid's college savings on the Pack!!!

My kid can now afford a private school tuition. If GB misses the 2 point conversion he goes to community college.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Re: Steelers are -2?

The Steelers are -2 as of today. What is the reasoning given they are supposed to be without the Long Hair and Kemoiatu (sp)(gaurd). Any thoughts?

Put the kid's college savings on the Pack!!!

My kid can now afford a private school tuition. If GB misses the 2 point conversion he goes to community college.

You could've made double if you'd listened to me and placed a bet on the over 41.5. Just think, you could send him to a private college and pay off the mortgage(or spend it all on hookers and blow).

[ThunderDan]

Re: Steelers are -2?

The Steelers are -2 as of today. What is the reasoning given they are supposed to be without the Long Hair and Kemoiatu (sp)(gaurd). Any thoughts?

Put the kid's college savings on the Pack!!!

My kid can now afford a private school tuition. If GB misses the 2 point conversion he goes to community college.

You could've made double if you'd listened to me and placed a bet on the over 41.5. Just think, you could send him to a private college and pay off the mortgage(or spend it all on hookers and blow).

I put all the money on the spread. Nothing left for the over/under.