Aaron Rodgers appreciation

[RashanGary]

My view is that it always has been as well
Erin should have the better QB rating and is having a better year IMO

Why should Aaron have a better QB rating?

[Scott Campbell]

Erin should have the better QB rating and is having a better year IMO

Yet you still disrespect the man - ala Tank.

[mngolf19]

Is completion % overemphasized in QB ratings? Rodgers now has more TDs, the same amount of interceptions, and more yards/attempt than Bert. However, Bert's completion % is 3.4 higher than Rodgers. Bert has a 104.1 QB rating. Rodgers has a 102.8. Maybe not. I was just expecting Rodgers to be rated higher when I looked this morning--since he has Bert beat in 2 of 4 categories and he's tied in another. Technically, he's doing better in interception rate since those 7 interceptions have come in more attempts. Then again, perhaps Bert's TD rate is a smidge higher.

I wonder how many drops the Vikings receivers have compared to the Packers receivers ?

Never would have guessed this but yesterday I saw a stat that said Berrian had the least drops in the NFL this season per attempt. I would have thought he was the worst on the Vikes.

[Fritz]

Maybe he doesn't get thrown to as much?

[cheesner]

Best part about AR is he is only in his 2nd year starting, can you imagine in 4 years when he is 30 in his prime??? Or when he gets a better O-line to protect him??? Or when Finley becomes a top TE in the league with more experience???

Future is good in GB and the so called GB fans that still continue to root against ARod really need to get off Favre's dick.

How can they see AR play when all they can see is BF's belly button?

I would like the rating to also take into consideration rushing yardage and rushing TDs.

[mngolf19]

Maybe he doesn't get thrown to as much?

They did say that it also goes into how "catchable" a ball is that is thrown to them to determine if it is a drop or not.

[Waldo]

Is completion % overemphasized in QB ratings? Rodgers now has more TDs, the same amount of interceptions, and more yards/attempt than Bert. However, Bert's completion % is 3.4 higher than Rodgers. Bert has a 104.1 QB rating. Rodgers has a 102.8. Maybe not. I was just expecting Rodgers to be rated higher when I looked this morning--since he has Bert beat in 2 of 4 categories and he's tied in another. Technically, he's doing better in interception rate since those 7 interceptions have come in more attempts. Then again, perhaps Bert's TD rate is a smidge higher.

Being an effectiveness stat, QB rating only considers per attempt averages.

Completions per attempt - .678 vs .644 - Brett wins
Yards per attempt - 7.75 vs 8.05 - Aaron wins
TD's per attempt - .059 vs .057 - Brett wins
Int's per attempt - .015 vs .014 - Aaron wins

Brett's completion % lead is fairly significant. For Aaron to overcome that lead in the other categories via the NFL formula it would take 31 TD's, 4 ints, or 8.5 ypa (4168 yds) if all other stats were unchanged.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Is completion % overemphasized in QB ratings? Rodgers now has more TDs, the same amount of interceptions, and more yards/attempt than Bert. However, Bert's completion % is 3.4 higher than Rodgers. Bert has a 104.1 QB rating. Rodgers has a 102.8. Maybe not. I was just expecting Rodgers to be rated higher when I looked this morning--since he has Bert beat in 2 of 4 categories and he's tied in another. Technically, he's doing better in interception rate since those 7 interceptions have come in more attempts. Then again, perhaps Bert's TD rate is a smidge higher.

Being an effectiveness stat, QB rating only considers per attempt averages.

Completions per attempt - .678 vs .644 - Brett wins
Yards per attempt - 7.75 vs 8.05 - Aaron wins
TD's per attempt - .059 vs .057 - Brett wins
Int's per attempt - .015 vs .014 - Aaron wins

Brett's completion % lead is fairly significant. For Aaron to overcome that lead in the other categories via the NFL formula it would take 31 TD's, 4 ints, or 8.5 ypa (4168 yds) if all other stats were unchanged.

Since Aaron has 492 attempts to Bert's 460, I thought I'd look at the results of those stats at 500 attempts each which results in Aaron throwing 17 fewer completions, but 150 more yards, one less td, but 0.5 less Int (guess that means it's tipped and closed the the ground and under review!)

[Smidgeon]

Since Aaron has 492 attempts to Bert's 460, I thought I'd look at the results of those stats at 500 attempts each which results in Aaron throwing 17 fewer completions, but 150 more yards, one less td, but 0.5 less Int (guess that means it's tipped and closed the the ground and under review!)

Which if it was in the Pittsburgh game would have been ruled an interception even though the receiver "caught" it the exact moment it hit the ground and was ruled an incompletion on the field...

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brett's completion % lead is fairly significant. For Aaron to overcome that lead in the other categories via the NFL formula it would take 31 TD's, 4 ints, or 8.5 ypa (4168 yds) if all other stats were unchanged.

Bottom line: completion % is overemphasized? It seems to favor a dink and dunk passer (higher completion %).

[vince]

Brett's completion % lead is fairly significant. For Aaron to overcome that lead in the other categories via the NFL formula it would take 31 TD's, 4 ints, or 8.5 ypa (4168 yds) if all other stats were unchanged.

Bottom line: completion % is overemphasized? It seems to favor a dink and dunk passer (higher completion %).

Harv I assume you're stating your opinion here in the form of a question, and I agree with your point. Yds, TD's and int's per attempt demonstrate QB effectiveness far more than completion % - relatively speaking - because of exactly what you're alluding to. Moving the ball, getting into the endzone and not turning it over are far more important than padding completion stats with short passes. You could even make the argument that completion % is already built into the three other stats (when considered on a per attempt basis) that go more directly to winning QB play.

[MOBB DEEP]

TEAM game...

I wonder how he would do in KC; Matt Cassel was 11-5 with Pat's weapons...

Aaron should appreciate the system/team/org that fell into his lap

Ted Thompson deserves our gratitude too; he's parcells-esque talent evaluating

Will be awesome to see how he plays in his 1st post-season. Round 2 at Minny! whew.....

[Scott Campbell]

TEAM game...

I wonder how he would do in KC; Matt Cassel was 11-5 with Pat's weapons...

Aaron should appreciate the system/team/org that fell into his lap

Ted Thompson deserves our gratitude too; he's parcells-esque talent evaluating

Will be awesome to see how he plays in his 1st post-season. Round 2 at Minny! whew.....

Perhaps Deanna said it best:

[mraynrand]

Round 2 at Minny! whew.....

The way the Vikings are playing, it's also likely that they will be hosting Dallas in the Wildcard round. Packers finish 11-5 and Dallas 10-6 after a loss to Philly. Philly gets 2 seed after Vikings lose to Giants and/or Bears.

[Patler]

Let's look at some extreme cases:

QB # 1 - 9 attempts, 3 completions, 240 yards, 3 TDs.
QB # 2 - 9 attempts, 7 completions, 240 yards, 3 TDs.

These could be achieved in 3 possessions. Their ratings?

QB #1 - 121
QB #2 - 158

What's even more interesting is that if QB #2 only throws 2 TDs, his rate stays at 158. If he throws just 1 TD, it only drops to 155. If he throws 2 TDs and 1 interception, actually turning the ball over in one of the drives, his rate is 119, barely below the guy with 3 TDs.

All-in-all, I do not like the calculation, and never really have.