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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by pbmax
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by pbmax
    The Bills employed one of the best Special Teams coaches in the league by the name of Bobby April. He should be given his own personal semi-truck full of cash and boxes if he would move to Green Bay and coach.
    And yet he he was fired from the Rams.
    That was a pretty desperate team on the decline with Martz in his last full year. The regime in charge after Vermeil did not covered itself in glory. He has had enough success elsewhere that this would not bother me.

    Even Fritz Shurmur got fired on occasion.
    Say what? The Rams went 12-4 in 03. Made the playoffs the following year. Ty is no Martz lover but, playoffs in 01,03, and 04..and transitioned from Warner to Bulger.

    Are you trying to say that the personnel wasn't good enough for April to work with? 3x playoff team?

    If you can say that about the Rams....why not the pack? If you exonerate April, please explain how you don't excuse Slocum?

    Ty isn't saying April isn't a good coach. Ty is simply pointing out that perhaps the issue isn't the coach. Systemic issue.

    Ty thinks the issues lies far more with the types of players on ST than the coaching.

    Ty will note that except for his last stint at Buffalo, Mr. April doesn't seem to stick around very long. Ty seemed to hear that quite a bit about a former packer coach. Ty remembers it viewed in a negative light.

    How about Ty curve balls you...and yet he was fired by the Steelers.

    OK, I blew that one. I confused fired in 2004 with coached the 04 season and then was let go. But I do think the Rams were on the downside of their run and I think the talent had gotten old and depth had run dry. Holt and Bruce were fine on offense in 03 but not playing special teams. And then the bottom fell out. Overall, St. Louis was his least effective stop.

    PIT
    94 == ST Rnk 15
    95 == ST Rnk 5

    NO
    96 == ST Rnk 26 pre April
    97 == ST Rnk 11
    98 == ST Rnk 5
    99 == ST Rnk 30
    00 == ST Rnk 26 post April

    Rams
    00 == ST Rnk 18 pre April
    01 == ST Rnk 29
    02 == ST Rnk 17
    03 - 12-4 == ST Rnk 26
    04 - 8-8 == ST Rnk 32 - post April
    05 - 6-10 == ST Rnk 31 - post April
    06 - 8-8 == ST Rnk 31 -post April

    Bills
    03 == ST Rank 24
    04 == ST Rank 1 - April
    05 == ST Rank 1 - April
    06 == ST Rank 2 - April
    07 == ST Rank 6 - April
    08 == ST Rank 1 - April
    09 == ST Rank 12 - April
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      As far as his short stints, twice he left when the head coach bit the dust. First in NO and now in Buffalo, which was his choice.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        I've always thought it was an exercise in futility for fans to try and evaluate assistant coaches. There's just not enough information out there. We don't watch them work at all.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax
          As far as his short stints, twice he left when the head coach bit the dust. First in NO and now in Buffalo, which was his choice.
          Like Ty said, think the issue lies with the players. Not saying April is a bad coach.

          Though, Ty thinks April is a wear out your welcome kinda guy. Don't think he really is a team player, he is a April kinda player. Ty knows April wants WAY more than to just coach ST.

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          • #20
            How does Ty know this?
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #21
              Here's an opinion about April from a guy who played for him:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Fritz
                How does Ty know this?
                Didn't say know..said "thinks."

                But, read about his desire to move up. His last position with Buf...assistant HC. You think that was by accident? Remember, he was a holdover from b4 jauron.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  How does Ty know this?
                  Didn't say know..said "thinks."

                  But, read about his desire to move up. His last position with Buf...assistant HC. You think that was by accident? Remember, he was a holdover from b4 jauron.
                  Let me quote your post, Ty:

                  "Ty knows April wants WAY more than to just coach ST."

                  So which is it?
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fritz
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Originally posted by Fritz
                    How does Ty know this?
                    Didn't say know..said "thinks."

                    But, read about his desire to move up. His last position with Buf...assistant HC. You think that was by accident? Remember, he was a holdover from b4 jauron.
                    Let me quote your post, Ty:

                    "Ty knows April wants WAY more than to just coach ST."

                    So which is it?
                    sorry, thought you were referring to april first thing.

                    Ty knows that. Read about it. And, negotiated with Wilson to get the assistant HC position with the Bills. If he wanted to coach ST, why would he have gotten that title.

                    April knew he had Wilson over the barrel and played hardball.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      I have a feeling April will be snatched by someone before the Packers season is over.
                      The word today is that the Redskins are after him.

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                      • #26
                        That would only make sense...
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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