Whisenhunt on stat padding

[ThunderDan]

I do think Lynn Dickey was a helluva QB, by the way. About as mobile as a tree stump, but still a hell of a QB in my book.

What do you mean? If Lynn only had to move 2 feet to avoid a sack he never went down.

[channtheman]

I thought we kept Rodgers in until he threw for his 30th TD. He had 29 coming in and I believe if the early attempt to Finley where he stepped out of bounds had been a TD that Rodgers day would have been done there.

[Fritz]

I do think Lynn Dickey was a helluva QB, by the way. About as mobile as a tree stump, but still a hell of a QB in my book.

What do you mean? If Lynn only had to move 2 feet to avoid a sack he never went down.

I'd give ya a foot, Thunder. Ol' Lynn had some really messed up knees and was never mobile anyway, but my gosh, could he throw the football. On a dime. And he had a strong arm, and was smart.

As I've said before, I never saw Herber or Isbell, but from the Packer QB's I've seen - from Starr through Rodgers - I'd say at this point I'd rate them Starr, Favre, and Dickey. Rodgers keeps doing what he's doing and stays healthy, he'll overtake one or more of those guys.

[ThunderDan]

I'd give ya a foot, Thunder. Ol' Lynn had some really messed up knees and was never mobile anyway, but my gosh, could he throw the football. On a dime. And he had a strong arm, and was smart.

Come on Fritz!!! He was good for at least 24" of pocket movement!!!

I saw him shuffle sideways at least 2 feet a couple of times!!!

[bobblehead]

I do think Lynn Dickey was a helluva QB, by the way. About as mobile as a tree stump, but still a hell of a QB in my book.

What do you mean? If Lynn only had to move 2 feet to avoid a sack he never went down.

I'd give ya a foot, Thunder. Ol' Lynn had some really messed up knees and was never mobile anyway, but my gosh, could he throw the football. On a dime. And he had a strong arm, and was smart.

As I've said before, I never saw Herber or Isbell, but from the Packer QB's I've seen - from Starr through Rodgers - I'd say at this point I'd rate them Starr, Favre, and Dickey. Rodgers keeps doing what he's doing and stays healthy, he'll overtake one or more of those guys.

Now dickey was the first QB that I saw regular, and I'll say this. Great arm. Great offense. Problem dickey had was the same one that Favre had. Red zone picks. Drive right down the field and toss a pick when we had it in chip shot field goal range.

If Rodgers continues the way he has been playing, all other things equal I believe he will be the best Packer ever in my book....and if he continues to toss 25+ TD's with single digit picks I'll put him top 5 all time, but we are a long ways from that yet.

One thing a friend and I were talking about the other day was how amazing it is that BF put up his best season ever (in our book due to 7 picks) and Rodgers was right there with him in his second year starting. We are truly blessed as Packer fans and I think we have 2-3 super bowls ahead in young Aarons career.

[Pugger]

Dickey also played when we had crappy defenses and he had to throw like crazy to keep us in games. I'll never forget that Skin/Packer MNF game!

[RashanGary]

I just read an article about Wisenhunt being all pissed off about McCarthys game plan. I don't know, I don't think we did anything crazy out there. Our guys played hard, but why the hell wouldn't they.


We might lose to Arizona, but honestly, after his stupid ass pouting, I hope we kick the shit out of them just to prove a point. The Packers are young, physical and hungry. Arizona might think they're playing hard for revenge, but the Packers just blew their asses up for fun and I really don't think Arizona is going to be playing with any more fire than our guys come Sunday.


We showed up at their house, kicked their ass and had our fans chanting GO PACK GO! Yeah, he hated it, but the way they played, that was his choice. McCarthy said all week he was playing to win. If Wis had paid attention, he'd a known what was coming. If it was that big of a deal he should have called MM ahead of time to work out how the game would be played.

[Bretsky]

We are a better team than Arizona
Go position by position; sqaud by squad.
No excuse to lose this game
If I was a gambler I'd lay some green on Green Bay
I'm still tempted but my history of betting on the Pack is not good and I don't wanna create a whammy

[RashanGary]

I agree, Bretsky. Early in 2007, I think that team was playing great. They faltered a little bit with injury down the stretch.


Right now, heading into the post season, I think this team is playing better than that 2007 team going into the playoffs. I don't know if anyone recalls, but we were getting gashed horribly in the run heading into the playoffs that year. This year, we're just starting to peak.


It's hard to go to the SB from the wild card spot, but I like our chances. We don't have the bye week or home field, but we're good and we have a fighters chance. ST's is even picking it up.

[Bretsky]

I don't get all the media love for Dallas; I think Green Bay an equal threat to the Cowboys and even Vikings. We have more talent than the 07 team hands down, we're playing far better, and our defensive coaching staff is superior to two years ago as well.

If Al Harris does not go down when he does we might be the two seed

I think the Saints and Vikings are tough to defeat due to how deep they are on offense but it's going to be tough to knock Green Bay out this year and a trip far into the playoffs would not surprise me at all. Anything could happen and it looks like our future is very bright.

[channtheman]

Hey Justin, you got a link to that article you read?

[RashanGary]

I agree. Right now, I think I have Minnesota #1, followed by the faltering Saints, followed by us.

I hate saying the Vikings are #1, but with that homefield crowd and the bye, they're going to be tough to knock off.


I'm hoping Dallas wins because I think DeMarcus Ware is the most dangerous defensive player in the NFL and I could see McKinney having issues against him. I also think we stand a better chance in a shoot out against the Saints. They just lost Charles Grant so their pass rush/DL is going to be thin. The Vikings have a scary front 4, so a shoot out with them means having Allen and Williams all over Rodgers. I'm not so fond of that. Then again, Clifton is playing is best football right now and so is Tausch. If we get a little time, we could shred their secondary.

It's tough playing from the wildcard spot, but for where we are, I do like our chances. We'll see how it plays out. I'm not all that excited to play the Vikes though. They beat us twice, I know we're playing better now and them worse, but I can't forget the last two games that easily. They had our number.

[Bretsky]

If I could pick how I'd like the NFC to go

I'd pick GB and Dallas in round one

GB upsets the Saints and the Vikes beat Dallas

Then GB goes in and upsets the Vikes on a Mason Crosby field goal to win about 38-35

GB then goes to the Super Bowl and defeats the Chargers

BTW, the Colts got eliminated in round one to leave all the Colts fans upset at Caldwellism

[Cheesehead Craig]

I do think Lynn Dickey was a helluva QB, by the way. About as mobile as a tree stump, but still a hell of a QB in my book.

Preach on Fritz!

One of my favorite Packers ever.