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  • #91
    Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
    Originally posted by wist43
    Originally posted by Bossman641
    Originally posted by wist43
    Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

    That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

    What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

    You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!
    Are you even reading the responses you are getting?
    Actually, not reading much... last night I was wasted (so my apologies for being overly contentious), and this am I'm hungover

    I don't drink much, so my head is hurting quite a bit this am
    Seemed a bit out of character in your writing style!! Wist + emotion = scary.

    Still (not sure if it was the booze perspective (nothing against having one btw!!!), but) it seems you derive more satisfaction in seeing capers fail than you would have in seeing the packers win.

    I read your posts a lot more objectively than I did at JSO, because I think you understand the game. I'm just not sure you how to appreciate and enjoy the triumphs. (adding a question mark to invite a response): ?
    Was angry... wouldn't have vented like that if I didn't think they had a chance. To me, there's no excuse for what we saw on Sunday... and now, sober as a judge , I still put the loss squarely on Capers.

    Truthfully, I don't mind losing... what I mind is going down in such an embarrassing fashion based mainly one mans utter refusal to accept his initial game plan wasn't working, and then making adjustments accordingly. Capers has been getting ripped apart on the talk shows, and rightfully so...

    As I said last Friday, we'd know pretty quickly what we were going to get on D, b/c if Capers came out with an unaggressive game plan, that would be it... he wouldn't adjust, Warner would get in a rhythm, and the game would become a track meet. Capers simply does not make adjustments... he may tweak things a bit, but only within the initial game plan itself... in this case, the game plan was a disaster, it was obvious from the very start, and needed to be abandoned; but, that is not Capers MO... he'll sit up there in the booth, scratch his head, and keep making the same calls.

    51 pts, 500 yds, 29-33 passing, 5 TD's later... the Packers are relaxing at home.

    I wonder if Dom is trying to explain to M3 and TT, "it should have worked, I don't know what went wrong, it looked good on paper"
    wist

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

      Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though Travon William played pretty well.

      At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

      I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!
      I knew if I returned you'd come back! But I digress...

      Agree about Rouse. If TT didn't like the way he was playing early, they should have benched him. Releasing him left the team very weak at Safety behind the starters, and it came back ti bite them against the Cardinals.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Joemailman
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

        Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though Travon William played pretty well.

        At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

        I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!
        I knew if I returned you'd come back! But I digress...

        Agree about Rouse. If TT didn't like the way he was playing early, they should have benched him. Releasing him left the team very weak at Safety behind the starters, and it came back ti bite them against the Cardinals.
        Because Rouse would've been the difference against the Cardinals...
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by wist43
          Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
          Originally posted by wist43
          Originally posted by Bossman641
          Originally posted by wist43
          Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

          That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

          What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

          You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!
          Are you even reading the responses you are getting?
          Actually, not reading much... last night I was wasted (so my apologies for being overly contentious), and this am I'm hungover

          I don't drink much, so my head is hurting quite a bit this am
          Seemed a bit out of character in your writing style!! Wist + emotion = scary.

          Still (not sure if it was the booze perspective (nothing against having one btw!!!), but) it seems you derive more satisfaction in seeing capers fail than you would have in seeing the packers win.

          I read your posts a lot more objectively than I did at JSO, because I think you understand the game. I'm just not sure you how to appreciate and enjoy the triumphs. (adding a question mark to invite a response): ?
          Was angry... wouldn't have vented like that if I didn't think they had a chance. To me, there's no excuse for what we saw on Sunday... and now, sober as a judge , I still put the loss squarely on Capers.

          Truthfully, I don't mind losing... what I mind is going down in such an embarrassing fashion based mainly one mans utter refusal to accept his initial game plan wasn't working, and then making adjustments accordingly. Capers has been getting ripped apart on the talk shows, and rightfully so...

          As I said last Friday, we'd know pretty quickly what we were going to get on D, b/c if Capers came out with an unaggressive game plan, that would be it... he wouldn't adjust, Warner would get in a rhythm, and the game would become a track meet. Capers simply does not make adjustments... he may tweak things a bit, but only within the initial game plan itself... in this case, the game plan was a disaster, it was obvious from the very start, and needed to be abandoned; but, that is not Capers MO... he'll sit up there in the booth, scratch his head, and keep making the same calls.

          51 pts, 500 yds, 29-33 passing, 5 TD's later... the Packers are relaxing at home.

          I wonder if Dom is trying to explain to M3 and TT, "it should have worked, I don't know what went wrong, it looked good on paper"
          Warner was in rhythm from the first pass. Didn't matter how aggressive Caper's scheme was.
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by wist43
            Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
            Originally posted by wist43
            Originally posted by Bossman641
            Originally posted by wist43
            Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

            That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

            What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

            You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!
            Are you even reading the responses you are getting?
            Actually, not reading much... last night I was wasted (so my apologies for being overly contentious), and this am I'm hungover

            I don't drink much, so my head is hurting quite a bit this am
            Seemed a bit out of character in your writing style!! Wist + emotion = scary.

            Still (not sure if it was the booze perspective (nothing against having one btw!!!), but) it seems you derive more satisfaction in seeing capers fail than you would have in seeing the packers win.

            I read your posts a lot more objectively than I did at JSO, because I think you understand the game. I'm just not sure you how to appreciate and enjoy the triumphs. (adding a question mark to invite a response): ?
            Was angry... wouldn't have vented like that if I didn't think they had a chance. To me, there's no excuse for what we saw on Sunday... and now, sober as a judge , I still put the loss squarely on Capers.

            Truthfully, I don't mind losing... what I mind is going down in such an embarrassing fashion based mainly one mans utter refusal to accept his initial game plan wasn't working, and then making adjustments accordingly. Capers has been getting ripped apart on the talk shows, and rightfully so...

            As I said last Friday, we'd know pretty quickly what we were going to get on D, b/c if Capers came out with an unaggressive game plan, that would be it... he wouldn't adjust, Warner would get in a rhythm, and the game would become a track meet. Capers simply does not make adjustments... he may tweak things a bit, but only within the initial game plan itself... in this case, the game plan was a disaster, it was obvious from the very start, and needed to be abandoned; but, that is not Capers MO... he'll sit up there in the booth, scratch his head, and keep making the same calls.

            51 pts, 500 yds, 29-33 passing, 5 TD's later... the Packers are relaxing at home.

            I wonder if Dom is trying to explain to M3 and TT, "it should have worked, I don't know what went wrong, it looked good on paper"
            All for the aggressive approach, and hate the passive gameplans, but I don't believe that blitzing Warner would have changed anything. The ball is gone before anyone can get there and that's just one less person in coverage. There certainly needed to be someone protecting the short-middle of the field.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Smidgeon
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

              Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though Travon William played pretty well.

              At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

              I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!
              I knew if I returned you'd come back! But I digress...

              Agree about Rouse. If TT didn't like the way he was playing early, they should have benched him. Releasing him left the team very weak at Safety behind the starters, and it came back ti bite them against the Cardinals.
              Because Rouse would've been the difference against the Cardinals...
              Rouse would have better than Giordano once Bigby was hurt . Not saying it would necessarily have changed the outcome.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

              Comment


              • #97
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Originally posted by Smidgeon
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

                Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though Travon William played pretty well.

                At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

                I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!
                I knew if I returned you'd come back! But I digress...

                Agree about Rouse. If TT didn't like the way he was playing early, they should have benched him. Releasing him left the team very weak at Safety behind the starters, and it came back ti bite them against the Cardinals.
                Because Rouse would've been the difference against the Cardinals...
                Rouse would have better than Giordano once Bigby was hurt . Not saying it would necessarily have changed the outcome.
                Then how would Rouse have been better if it didn't change the outcome?
                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
                  YAY!!!! MY BLUE BITCH IS BACK!!!!
                  Thanks for the shout out, but I'm just here doing a little slumming. I've got all sorts of new friends - pretty people, brilliant people, shakers and movers.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon
                    Then how would Rouse have been better if it didn't change the outcome?
                    You might be right that a better backup safety wouldn't have made a difference. BTW, I saw an article that praised Smith contribution at Jacksonville, he moved up to starter.

                    You never know, I bet Blackwell or Lee would have been better than Bushy. Rouse and Smith were certainly better than Gardenia (I know that's not his real name, dummy) and either would have been better in coverage than Bigby. I think overall the weak depth at secondary was a big problem.

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                    • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
                      YAY!!!! MY BLUE BITCH IS BACK!!!!
                      Thanks for the shout out, but I'm just here doing a little slumming. I've got all sorts of new friends - pretty people, brilliant people, shakers and movers.
                      Well, when you're sitting there
                      In your silk upholstered chair
                      Talking to some rich folk that you know
                      Well, I hope you won't see me
                      In my ragged company
                      You know I could never be alone
                      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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