Guys I feel bad for the most...

[ThunderDan]

I think all teams get 3 tags this year.

[denverYooper]

I love Dud but he didn't help his cause by fumbling early.

[packerbacker1234]

Kampman.


His days in GB are done. the rest probably will be back next season.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Love how Retail Guy is all over the place after a loss.

Good call.

Ty noted this in another thread. 2 months of solid GB victories and he isn't anywhere to be found. Amazing coincidence.

[PA Pack Fan]

Re: Guys I feel bad for the most...

Woodson / Driver...

I wanted the packers to win the Superbowl Esp before Driver leaves GB... 2-3 year window max

I don't feel bad for either one. Both guys played terribly, especially driver. You don't drop balls and fumble in the playoffs, period.

[mraynrand]

Love how Retail Guy is all over the place after a loss.

I had the day off. Been here everyday for a long time.... not much to say usually with all you know it alls! You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

And you know, Harv. I do like to be right. This team was not ready. AZ was pissed, and played like it.

Sad part is we'd have won with a better game plan. That I didn't see coming.

I find this post difficult to accept without some complaint. The frustrating Packers from Green Bay accumulated 45 points, came back from a 21 point deficit, set records on offense, and were about 3 feet from winning with a truly sublime effort and yet it seems as though you prefer to focus on a bad game plan. I believe this to be an inaccurate analysis, at least on offense. Also, if you please sir, desist from overgeneralizations in characterizing your fellow posters as 'know it alls.' I also suggest humbly that you not demand that we shut up and hear a different point, as though we are unwilling to consider alternative perspectives. Please state your opinion and we - or at least I - would be happy to respectfully argue the point, in a contrite, forthright manner, befitting this fine website and in keeping with the collegial spirit present throughout the world of internet sports websites, where namecalling and poor language is conspicuously absent, except here, on Packerrats.

Edited for civility at 10:18 AM.

[mraynrand]

My heart is bleeding for Driver. He will have to live forever without a Superbowl ring. Really, the tears are flowing from my eyes.

[Administrator]

Love how Retail Guy is all over the place after a loss.

I had the day off. Been here everyday for a long time.... not much to say usually with all you know it alls! You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

And you know, Harv. I do like to be right. This team was not ready. AZ was pissed, and played like it.

Sad part is we'd have won with a better game plan. That I didn't see coming.

What an annoying bed wetter. Fucking Packers ring up 45 points, come back from a 21 point deficit, set records on offense, were about 3 feet from winning and this tool talks about a bad game plan. You suck.

This was completely uncalled for. Probably on both sides, but mraynrand, the guy caught a lot of crap last week too. FWIW, I wasn't thrilled with the 1st half game plan, 2nd half was much better on both coaching and execution.

[mraynrand]

Love how Retail Guy is all over the place after a loss.

I had the day off. Been here everyday for a long time.... not much to say usually with all you know it alls! You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

And you know, Harv. I do like to be right. This team was not ready. AZ was pissed, and played like it.

Sad part is we'd have won with a better game plan. That I didn't see coming.

What an annoying bed wetter. Fucking Packers ring up 45 points, come back from a 21 point deficit, set records on offense, were about 3 feet from winning and this tool talks about a bad game plan. You suck.

This was completely uncalled for. Probably on both sides, but mraynrand, the guy caught a lot of crap last week too. FWIW, I wasn't thrilled with the 1st half game plan, 2nd half was much better on both coaching and execution.

It was called for: "You guys can't shut up and hear a different point." You dish it out, you better be prepared to take it. And Bigguns is right - the guy was MIA for 8 weeks of wins and comes in here to wet the bed after a loss. Go ahead and ban me if you like but I'm not taking his shit.

[Administrator]

Love how Retail Guy is all over the place after a loss.

I had the day off. Been here everyday for a long time.... not much to say usually with all you know it alls! You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

And you know, Harv. I do like to be right. This team was not ready. AZ was pissed, and played like it.

Sad part is we'd have won with a better game plan. That I didn't see coming.

What an annoying bed wetter. Fucking Packers ring up 45 points, come back from a 21 point deficit, set records on offense, were about 3 feet from winning and this tool talks about a bad game plan. You suck.

This was completely uncalled for. Probably on both sides, but mraynrand, the guy caught a lot of crap last week too. FWIW, I wasn't thrilled with the 1st half game plan, 2nd half was much better on both coaching and execution.

It was called for: "You guys can't shut up and hear a different point." You dish it out, you better be prepared to take it. And Bigguns is right - the guy was MIA for 8 weeks of wins and comes in here to wet the bed after a loss. Go ahead and ban me if you like but I'm not taking his shit.

Then talk about what you believe and stop name calling. He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

Why would I ban you? That's ridiculous, but stop with the juvenile name calling, I thought you were smarter than that.

[mraynrand]

He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

not much to say usually with all you know it alls!

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

[Administrator]

He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

not much to say usually with all you know it alls!

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

where did he call someone a "bed wetter" or a "tool"? Do you honestly think most of the folks in this forum are open to hearing a different opinion than the one they come in here with?

Did you read all the over-confident posts last week? Did you read the names and riducule he got last week? I remember "negative nancy" off the top of my head, and long involved discussions regarding bigby and OL.

Maybe you should go back an reread those. Could you post quotes from those too? Whether you agree with him or not, he had some valid points, and was "out to lunch" on others. SO WHAT?

Lets stop with the name calling and stick to the issues.

[Patler]

He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

not much to say usually with all you know it alls!

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

where did he call someone a "bed wetter" or a "tool"? Do you honestly think most of the folks in this forum are open to hearing a different opinion than the one they come in here with?

Did you read all the over-confident posts last week? Did you read the names and riducule he got last week? I remember "negative nancy" off the top of my head, and long involved discussions regarding bigby and OL.

Maybe you should go back an reread those. Could you post quotes from those too? Whether you agree with him or not, he had some valid points, and was "out to lunch" on others. SO WHAT?

Lets stop with the name calling and stick to the issues.

So is a "tool" or "bed wetter" worse than a "know it all". Why do you defend one and criticize the other? In my mind, none are appropriate, and all lead away from meaningful discussion, just as we have seen here.

No disrespect intended, but I think some of us have a difficult time understanding how you will react to given comments, given situations. Perhaps a thread to discuss it, rather than thread-jacking this one, would be appropriate?

[mraynrand]

He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

not much to say usually with all you know it alls!

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

where did he call someone a "bed wetter" or a "tool"? Do you honestly think most of the folks in this forum are open to hearing a different opinion than the one they come in here with?

Did you read all the over-confident posts last week? Did you read the names and riducule he got last week? I remember "negative nancy" off the top of my head, and long involved discussions regarding bigby and OL.

Maybe you should go back an reread those. Could you post quotes from those too? Whether you agree with him or not, he had some valid points, and was "out to lunch" on others. SO WHAT?

Lets stop with the name calling and stick to the issues.

Hey, I read all the overconfident posts. Go look in the prediction thread for the game and see who fit the

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

description.

Like I said, I reacted to someone name calling in this thread. I probably shouldn't have done it, but I did. I'm done.



Back to the thread: I'm still crying for Donald Driver. Anyone have a tissue?

[Administrator]

He posted a lot yesterday, but few posts even inferred name calling.

not much to say usually with all you know it alls!

You guys can't shut up and hear a different point.

where did he call someone a "bed wetter" or a "tool"? Do you honestly think most of the folks in this forum are open to hearing a different opinion than the one they come in here with?

Did you read all the over-confident posts last week? Did you read the names and riducule he got last week? I remember "negative nancy" off the top of my head, and long involved discussions regarding bigby and OL.

Maybe you should go back an reread those. Could you post quotes from those too? Whether you agree with him or not, he had some valid points, and was "out to lunch" on others. SO WHAT?

Lets stop with the name calling and stick to the issues.

So is a "tool" or "bed wetter" worse than a "know it all". Why do you defend one and criticize the other? In my mind, none are appropriate, and all lead away from meaningful discussion, just as we have seen here.

No disrespect intended, but I think some of us have a difficult time understanding how you will react to given comments, given situations. Perhaps a thread to discuss it, rather than thread-jacking this one, would be appropriate?

Neither is better, would prefer that they both disappear. However, I have to work with what I've got.

I'm coming in from the outside. I don't know either one of these posters, other than their reputation here.

I also know from other sites that I posted on in the past that this site has a well deserved reputation for "not discussing issues" but instead attacking the character of the poster. I'm trying to unwind that little by little.

There may be a certain truth to "know it all", but I hope no truth to "bedwetter" or "tool".

This thread is as good as any other, I'd guess. Sometimes I just go PM and leave the quote alone, then I sometimes get public or private criticism of "he didn't do anything about that quote". Can't win, Patler.

I don't take any disrespect. I just want to keep guys like you around. There has to have been times where you and others like you were 'frustrated' about the lack of discussion. The good posters, who are able to resist name calling or personal insults or complaints about the validity or lack thereof in their posts are also the first ones to move along and post somewhere else.

Gotta stop the crap somehow and I certainly don't have license to the best method to do that. Point taken.