A sickening statistic

[ThunderDan]

I dont think there is no more doubting Warner as a future Hall of Famer.

I don't think there was even before this game. Something like 8-3 in the playoffs with the 2nd highest QB rating behind Bart Starr. Also a two time MVP winner as well as having won one SB and barely lost two others.

Heck, if Jim Kelly made it then I'd have to believe Warner is in. Then again, if based purely on passing yards and passing TD's, you might have a point.

He disappeared in the middle of his career. If you are great enough to be a HOF player you shouldn't drop off for years to bounce back. Also, if you look at his STL numbers they basicly had T Green and Bulger that were able to get the same production out of the greatest show on turf before and after. If Trent Green doesn't hurt his knee Warner is probably never heard of.

[Smidgeon]

I dont think there is no more doubting Warner as a future Hall of Famer.

I don't think there was even before this game. Something like 8-3 in the playoffs with the 2nd highest QB rating behind Bart Starr. Also a two time MVP winner as well as having won one SB and barely lost two others.

Heck, if Jim Kelly made it then I'd have to believe Warner is in. Then again, if based purely on passing yards and passing TD's, you might have a point.

He disappeared in the middle of his career. If you are great enough to be a HOF player you shouldn't drop off for years to bounce back. Also, if you look at his STL numbers they basicly had T Green and Bulger that were able to get the same production out of the greatest show on turf before and after. If Trent Green doesn't hurt his knee Warner is probably never heard of.

Also comparing his QB rating to Starr's is ridiculous. There have been two major overhauls of passing rules between Starr's career and Warner's second career in Arizona. One was in 1978 and one was in 2005. Both of those overhauls resulted in dramatic increases in QB stats and ratings. So it's ludicrous to say that Warner is second best all time based on ratings. He's been helped out by the rule book. I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying that's a bad comparison.

Also, Elias Sports Bureau designed the QB rating to be an effective stat over the course of a season. So it drives me nuts every time someone talks about a QB's rating over a quarter or a half or even a full game. It's not designed to measure spurts or how hot a QB is. It's designed to measure efficiency across many games.

[MichiganPackerFan]

2 time NFL MVP with multiple Super Bowls and over a dozen playoff games.

There are only a few in the league that good but you will always meet them in the playoffs.

he didn't deserve either one of those MVP's standing behind that offensive line in STL with those receivers and a more deserving MVP in his RB Faulk. Shit, I could put up those numbers with those tools, and I suck at Madden. against the computer. On easy. Ray Lewis deserved the other stolen MVP.